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do not read the new “Making a Play for Pau” fanpost.

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

well, if Luol gets hurt again in a blowout win

then your theory that Boozer’s shit play isn’t costing the Bulls a title will be right. So keep chasing that rainbow.

It's not like I've said Boozer is great

And my “theory” would be correct no matter what, unless you tell me who the Bulls could have gotten instead of Boozer. Unless you think his mere presence is hurting the team…

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

I think he needs to play better, you don't.

Wrong, I don't think he can play better, and a lot of people do

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-bogans-release-by-bulls-a-slap-in-the-face-20120206,0,6352727.story

Talking about how you don't want to talk about it,

is sometimes even more fun than actually talking about it.

nothinbutbrick - February 6, 2012 reply

OT: uh-oh, revenge of the Bogans?!!

OMG!!

it’s a slap in the face that they replaced me with someone way better than me! i can’t believe it!

LOL

This is all kinda silly. He is a role player. This is something you just have to get used to.

That said, I would love me some Keith Bogans right about now with all the injuries. Not saying I would rather have him start than Brewer, but having him on the bench to come in might have been nice. Although, I guess Jimmy has done well so meh.

DRoseO1 - February 6, 2012 reply

A little extra from Bogans is what?

4 points, 2 rebounds and 3 fouls?

jpm356 - February 6, 2012 reply

add 2 more points

and it was always a guaranteed win!

coke - February 6, 2012 reply

i kind of feel bad for him.

I do too

Hated that he was our starter, but he seemed like a good guy, and a great teammate. Has to be a shitty feeling to get the boot like that when you love the people you play with. Although I’m kinda surprised his agent didn’t have him more prepared. I mean, his departure didn’t exactly come as a surprise

yeah i mean he, like taj w/ the tyrus stuff

was put in a shitty position of being the object of hate due to circumstances beyond his control. but still… i mean. it wasn’t a secret that the bulls were updating the sg position…

taj has to feel pretty vindicated, considering how tyrus...is, now.

Taj was better than Tyrus then...

But, some fans mistake potential for actual production…I, for one, liked that Tyrus was more jumpy.

Dionysus2.0 - February 6, 2012 reply

it's pretty arguable that taj was better then

tyrus only played 4 games before he got hurt – but most of his averages in chicago that season are better than taj’s. people didn’t like that he was benched because he never got a chance to redeem himself… an injury shouldn’t be a ticket to the bench.

but yeah… it sucks what tyrus has turned into.

BigforkBullsFan - February 6, 2012 reply

The Tyrus and Taj thing

Was almost like the Drew Bledsoe and Tom Brady thing

except at a much smaller scale…. :)

majoyenrac - February 6, 2012 reply

It was never arguable that TT was better at anything but jumping

He had not idea what to do on a basketball court and still doesn’t. He refuses to embrace his role and still thinks he is a SF. I liked him as much as anyone but saying it was a debate between him and TT is SILLY.

between him and *TAJ

BigforkBullsFan - February 6, 2012 reply

Well and scoring more effienctly

Passing

Certain defensive stats

Being exciting

that season

tyrus had a 16.5 PER in chicago that season (and improved it to 17.1 after the trade), a feat taj has yet to reach (he had exactly that in just the playoffs last season).

he also:

and as tuluse says
had more steals, blocks, and assists (and their respective rate stats)

he may not have taj’s bball iq, but AT THE TIME (disregard what they’ve done since, because that’s not what this is about), he was certainly performing at least at taj’s level.

I respect your opinions

But I can’t give u more than exciting. He did nothing efficiently and his blocking fetish cost the defense regularly when he left his man and the defense broke down. Not a good basketball player. Why can’t people get over that.

BigforkBullsFan - February 6, 2012 via mobile reply

We can, and we don't have to make things up to do it

Not a good basketball player. Why can’t people get over that.

BigforkBullsFan - February 6, 2012 reply

Use information to defend your statements then...

better passer? good luck

defensive stats? at the cost of team defense

being exciting? i already gave u that.

PER is flawed because because it can make you think someone like TT is better than someone like Taj. (and honestly I don’t think Taj is incredible or anything, just someone you can win a champ with on your roster while TT will never win anything.

You want me to use information to defend that fact that I think Taj is better?

I’m just saying we don’t have to shit on Tyrus to appreciate Taj.

tuluse - February 7, 2012 reply

Yeah and hell probably be brought back next year and given one of those lifetime "Org guys" contracts

so he shouldn’t feel too bad

He's a good guy and it sucks that he was put through that

But he just isnt starter material. We have so many guards as it is…no room for poor ol Keith

Brigade17 - February 6, 2012 reply

Yeah, I think the organization did not treat him very well.

First, I am not sure why they did not bring him back. He seems to be the kind of player that is cool in the locker room but pretty damn mean to opposing players. We need at least a few of those types. There may be cap issues for not taking him back or maybe they did not think that he could transition from starter to Scalabrine in one season. Maybe this was the only way that they could be 100% sure that Thibs did not start him this season.

If they did have to move him, they should have been more communicative about where he stood. I always liked Keith even though he was in a position to draw ire.

Also, as we are capped out, any contributing players we get from here on out will be in the form of vets taking a pay cut. If we do not want all of them to go to the Heat, it is probably a good idea not to throw veteran players under the bus (although the Heat have done this 3 times and are still drawing all of these charity cases).

THEKILLERWHALE - February 6, 2012 reply

He was treated fine. He got paid and was starting even though he sucked.

He needs to let it go.

Playboy_BullV - February 6, 2012 reply

Why? Because he was so underwhelming in his role that despite being an important piece of the Bulls' defense

And starting every single game from preseason to the ECF he couldn’t land a single FA offer? ?He should bitch to his agent, not the franchise that gave him the best season of his life.

Basketball Smurf - February 6, 2012 reply

Well apparently he did bitch to his agent

and than fired him. I think this is why he is pissed

Bogans expressed frustration over how the sequence of events unfolded. He said he participated in informal workouts at Berto Center the week of Dec. 5 under the impression from agent Joel Bell, whom he has since fired, that the Bulls would bring him back. And Bogans said interest from Portland got scuttled when the Bulls held his rights from the time they pulled him off the floor on Dec. 9 to his official Dec. 16 release.

I mean, there are a lot of weighs to look at that. The Bulls were obviously looking out for their own interests and probably hurt Bogans in the process. The Bulls may have done everything ethically and fine – but if this happened to anyone, they’d be pissed.

Well that makes more sense, though the Bulls must have been crazy to think they could have gotten a draft pick for Bogans.

hence the 'kind of'

and if i ever say i feel bad for any high paid athlete i’m speaking in extremely relative terms. the only reason i have any sympathy for him in this case is how he felt like the team was family and it sucks to have that pulled out from under you. it’s too bad he couldn’t be the third stringer now, obviously he should never had started.

I don't

He got to play and start in the ECF when he arguably could have been in the D-League. Hell feel sorry for Steve Nash wasting away in Phoenix or Brandon Roy’s career ending in his 20s

Dils - February 6, 2012 reply

i really feel sorry for roy,,,

he had such good potential and it sucks to see good players like him get injured.

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

Ah, so this is how we don't talk about it?

Tim S. - February 6, 2012 reply

omg fuck you all

there, special post update for Tim S.

I’m now ok to talk about anything, promise rescinded!

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

poor guy

But if u didn’t expect the bulls to upgrade u (after every one was screaming it in the offseason + YOUR IN CHICAGO…media…hello?) Then I don’t know ur stupid, nieve or high off your ass off on whatver pills got you tru last year bruh

Belize - February 6, 2012 via mobile reply

lol

That’s even better," Bogans said. "I can’t wait. I tried to figure my release out for a while and I couldn’t. So I let it go. I’m going to move on."

Am i the only thinking that hes talking about his shooting release?

piccolomair - February 6, 2012 reply

it does sound like hes talking about his shooting release from a comical standpoint, haha.

I just have bad thoughts when someone tries to strip deng and slaps down hard on his wrist

Im looking at you Zasa….

its going to hurt at time, but remember, the injury cant get any worse (according to the bulls docs)

sp, w/e he felt when he fall on the floor in the 4th Q is the worse kind of pain hes going to feel (knock on wood)

About Deng's minutes,

his minutes per game averages before Thibs got here were 27, 33, 37.5, 33.5, 34 and then 38. Under Thibs, Deng has played 39 and 38.5 minutes per game and hasn’t missed any time due to minutes related injuries.

I’m not gonna get all upset about an extra minute or two per game. Does anyone really think that a couple minutes per game is gonna do damage to a world-class athlete?

Yeah, it can be a little odd when those guys are out there with big leads, but I’m not that concerned. And with practice’s being scarce, Thibs wants these guys to get as many minutes as possible together.

dakoose - February 6, 2012 reply

I agree about his minutes...

Jordan averaged 38 min/game and Pippen was 39 min/game. I’m sure they had BIG leads most games but was anyone harping on Phil Jackson about their playing time? NO. Everyone should get off Thibs back about his substitution pattern. Because we are winning and doing well everybody needs to nit-pick about things to find something to complain about. If we were 6-20 would anybody be talking about their minutes. Get serious. These are the best athletes in the world. The difference in a few minutes is going to do no harm physically. If Deng is already able to log 40 minutes a game it will not hurt him to consistently do 40 minutes. it’d be one thing if he averaged 40 minutes and then had to play 50 minutes at the same level. I am a distance runner and coach cross country. I see no reason a professional player cant play 40 minutes. THE ONLY issue with playing extra minutes is that it also increase the minutes per season that a player could possibly get injured. BUT, should a coach/player really worry about injury. If it happens it happens. It could happen at minute 1 of the game, it could happen in bed with an apple, it could happen with a gym bag. my point is to stop talking about Luol’s minutes. Its so frustrating to see Sam Smith and everyone on twitter being sarcastic about his minutes. YOU ARE NOT THE COACH. Thibs is f-ing awesome and i’m sure he knows what he is doing. For example, against philly he didn’t play ANYSTARTERS the whole 4th quarter. Ahhh. ok, i’ll stop. off my soap box. To end, I just have to say that as an endurance athlete, it is stupid to nit-pick over playing time. Luol just sat out for 1.5 weeks, he needs to build his endurance up. Peace out. boom.

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

it's just not necessary, so just...stop doing it

he’s playing through pain, and isn’t Michael Jordan. Sit him when the game’s in hand, I agree it’s not a big deal, as in they should sit him because it isn’t a big deal.

I understand with your points

I also think that if a player has an injury that they need to rest it… (like rip playing longer minutes, or derrick if his back is bothering him) but if players are healthy then I feel the minute conversation isn’t as relevant

also, sorry for my vent session

it wasn’t directed at you, as much as just the whole issue in general. I was AT the bulls/bucks game the other night in MKE. It was outstanding. The crowd was 90% bulls fans. I didn’t see much issue with Dengs playing time that game. I was soooo excited about the game and all that was on twitter by Sam Smith and others was about this playingtime issue so it was difficult to just be excited about the game, without having to worry about these other issues. make sense?

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

eh, just the 'curse' of rooting for a team that's awesome

criticism is nitpicking by default, really

This thought should enter into our discussions more

Although I admit it only permeates the game threads fully

Joninja - February 6, 2012 reply

Well, simply the fact that he's out on the floor exposes him to the possibility of injury

So if Thibs takes him out three minutes earlier in a blowout, that’s three minutes that a freak occurance can’t happen. Of course, you can’t plan your rotation around weird shit happening, but for a guy like Lu that has had some pretty strange non-major contact injuries, it’s probably better to just play it safe

this

you don’t tempt fate. thibs is daring the motherfucker.

I'd like to point out that,

of the Bulls’ next three opponents, all on the road, the Nets are gonna be missing Lopez, Brooks and Okur. The Hornets will be missing Landry and Gordon (possibly Kaman, although that’s a strange situation), and the suckfest Bobcats will be missing Augustin and Henderson. Anything less than 3-0 will be unacceptable.

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

and somehow the NBA is still against the Bulls in regards to scheduling

Stern hates when Chicago is successful!

and going 2-1 is totally acceptable

I mean, I’ll accept it. Who isn’t? It’s a long-ass road trip.

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

Really?

I get that this is a shitty road trip, and road games are tougher, but have you seen those teams, and who they’re missing? Who could we lose to?

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

I dunno, just seems like an empty remark to call it 'unacceptable'

they could have a clunker. I certainly don’t expect it but I’d accept it.

(I suppose it’s just an expression, I’m having a real difficult time with those today, apparently)

Ok, how about: "It would really suck" if the Bulls lose one of the next three games?

(plus, don’t forget the “Thibs coaching the All Star game” implications if we lose. Still wanna see him yell at Lebron for a blown defensive assignment in the first quarter)

They did stop at home though...

After the New York game and before the Milwaukee game, so the trip should feel a little shorter to the players.

Dionysus2.0 - February 6, 2012 reply

yeah, it's true

plus that milwaukee game was basically a home game lol. but they did stop at home before (and maybe even after? i feel like i read that, but not sure), so they did get to break it up a little.

It was on twitter...

Can’t recall if swirsk or KC mentioned the stop before the Milwaukee game…

Dionysus2.0 - February 6, 2012 reply

frankly i dont know what to do but accept the outcomes of these professional basketball games

in which i play no role whatsoever.

see man that's where you wrong

Reality is like all in our minds, dude. You just gotta free yourself from what the man wants you to see.

This is a very Fight Club-ish quote

Stacey_Is_King - February 6, 2012 reply

I think someone forgot Rule No. 1.

MrBungle - February 6, 2012 reply

anything less than 3-0 against those teams

would be unacceptable even if they were fully healthy. these are three awful teams. also, isn’t morrow out for the nets too?

John T. Unger - February 6, 2012 reply

yes, morrow is out. i read it online that he has a funeral

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

yeah, HIS OWN

BECAUSE D-ROSE SAW HE SCORED 42 POINTS AND MARKED IT ON HIS SHIT LIST

Breaking: KC Johnson is reporting that yfbb is on Derrick Rose’s shit list for shitting on his shit list

Rose leads Bulls past Blog-A-Bull

with 36 points on 11-18 shooting, 12 assists, 8 rebounds.

kozzer - February 6, 2012 reply

I really don't think Rose would go 11-18

when he’d just dunk each time

Stacey_Is_King - February 6, 2012 reply

HE WOULD IF I WAS DEFENDING HIM

im sure they will go 2-1, boozer will average 14 and 8 and you will somehow find a way for it not

to be his fault.

No Booz fault.

Bulldozer - February 6, 2012 reply

love it.

I'd be totally fine with 2 outta 3

This season is way too wacky and unpredictable to demand them to beat every team they should beat on a 9 game road trip

Option27 - February 6, 2012 via mobile reply

Whats going to happen with Korver?

When Hamilton returns and Deng is playing his normal rotation, will Korver still get much playing time? he is on fire lately and I feel needs to stay as a steady part of the rotation. I’d play him over Brewer to be honest. Korver’s D is really impressing me this year (just versus his D from last year).

Rip, 22- 30minutes, KK 15-20

i dont want jimmys minutes being cut down to like 1 again, lol

thibs needs to learn time management. He needs to let deng rest a bit more esp like the mil game.

Did Thibs have a mandatory Super Bowl party for the players yesterday?

Option27 - February 6, 2012 via mobile reply

For those who take interest in such things

Bulls are no. 1 in Hollinger’s rankings

They’re no. 2 behind Miami in Stein’s. F

Poloplaya14 - February 6, 2012 reply

Also, D Rose is fifth in PER, and barely trailing CP3 and Kobe

Of course, Lebron is number one, and currently playing at an historic level :( #hollywoodashell

but is he behind deron williams?

see, these are the questions.

He's 5th in win shares too

3rd in offensive win shares behind Lebron and Love

thing is big men are heavily biased in PER calculations

i wouldnt try to compare a pg to a SF/PF. Just seeing Rose being high in PER is an amazing feat. Think about it, look at Michael Jordans PER. Its not the best PER, but you already know you dont need to use PER to determine how fuckin good he was.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_season.html

what the hell are you talking about?

Jordan has 4 of the top 10 single-season PERs in history.

Though maybe we should throw it out because the Mutumbo-esque David Robinson is #10 (callback to the Dwight Howard thread!)

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

well, wouldnt u think MJ should have the hgihest PER?

Again, if you have more big men than guards in the top10-50 highest PER of all time, then this stat is def flawed measurement for most pgs and sgs. I know jordan has a great PER, but i just dont like the fact LeBron is AHEAD OF JORDAN!

Bigs have historially been more important than guards

(fyi, i knew Jordan PER is crazy high, but i think that stat is too flawed to do justice to the GOAT)

HE IS THE CAREER LEADER IN PER.

im taking bout single seasons, not career...

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

you're taking our your ass

you mean "you're talking out of your ass"

i guess im not being clear. Point is even with Mj’s PER being high, I still feel is should be higher than what it is. He does have the higher career PER, but I just dont like the list with LeBron James, Shaq, and David Robinson being really close to MJ’s PER.

plus im surprised Kobe PER being this low (not saying its low, but its lwoer than expected)

as I much as I like Hakeem and Tim Duncan, I feel Kobe PER doesnt do him any justice either.

did my message get cut in half?

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

I meant to dig at your own misspelling

lol, i guess im the last person to criticize someone spelling

I apologize if i sounded like an ass

MichaelClutchtree - February 6, 2012 reply

yeah boy it must be so hard to get a lot of assists when you have open guys to pass to because either they’re left alone to focus on lebron/wade/bosh or hell you even have wade and bosh to PASS to

oh yeah, and maybe in his commercials about staying in school he should talk about how he skipped college for a game

fuck lebron

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

Use the subject line!

Link to BaB instructions are on the front page, left margin. Yeesh.

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

absolutely correct, apologies

Seriously, that guy should be banned for not following yfbb's rules.

MrBungle - February 6, 2012 reply

Please use subject lines in the future so I can collapse your rambling idiocy.

isnt it like the assistant coach's jobs to monitor minutes and stuff like that and keep the coach informed throughout the game?

i wonder what thibs just says when someone tells him luols been out there too long

sin - February 6, 2012 reply

"get me a soda. BITCH"

No one tells Thibs anything, because they're afraid of this

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

shopped? I mean...really?

This is amazing

Dont know how this one slipped by.

Recent?

Option27 - February 6, 2012 via mobile reply

Not photoshopped at all (per yfbb's comment)

It just came up in Google images, like magic.

Even Thibs can't resist making "Chris Bosh is a woman" jokes

im pretty sure hes talking to deng

Deng! Deng! If you cant play through it you’re a…. :hand signal:

piccolomair - February 6, 2012 reply

ITS THE ROC!

Belize - February 6, 2012 reply

is sbnation doing some pretty wacky things to anyone else, or are my difficulties in getting

pages to load on this site exclusively my own?

your friendly BullsBlogger - February 6, 2012 reply

I think something is up

I’m pretty sure as a result of last Thursday. But there hasn’t been an announced outage or maintenance.

if it’s bad contact supportATSBNation.com

yeah, there are also issues with "double posts" and messages are being spliced into different messages

into separated messages*

sometimes im able to get on without problem, sometimes i get the connection reset error. If you hit the try again button it usually connects, or if you go the sbn home pages you will be fine. Ive also had trouble posting comments. im thinking when the server went down last week, they didnt replace it and just fixed everything to go around using that server, and its causing extreme lag when connecting to the website.

piccolomair - February 6, 2012 reply

I'm just gonna get mad if Deng makes the all star team and doesn't play because of the wrist

If they’re gonna use the “it can’t get any worse” excuse now, they may as well use it then.

Then I’ll really believe in not talking about it anymore

I doubt Kobe sits

Option27 - February 6, 2012 via mobile reply

Bull have lost 16 of last 18 in Jersey

OMG, Rose, get mad!!!!!

*Bulls

I hate when the Bulls play in Jersey.

Playboy_BullV - February 6, 2012 reply

I'm sure they do, too.

jpx7 - February 6, 2012 reply

The Nets hate when they play in Jersey...

lol

No more Jason Kidd and his hatred of Skiles

wasnt skiles hated by shaq too?

Basketball Smurf - February 6, 2012 reply

I thought that was just point guards

cause Skiles was supposedly one of the dirtiest players in the league…

wasn’t Skiles’ main role on those Orlando teams to feed Shaq?

tuff-gong - February 6, 2012 reply

skiles coached kidd in phoenix

i believe the hate stems from that

I just watched that Kevin Love thing and for some warped reason

I love him more. That dude is NO JOKE.

Dils - February 6, 2012 reply

u gotta be kiddin me..

i was expecting you to call him LoDouche.

Well they showed that in an earlier game

Scola threw a ball going out of bounds at Love and it him him in the balls. Not saying it was cool what Love did but it takes something for someone to throw a guy on the ground and then stomp him. Yeah it’s bad but still…damn. Imagine if Boozer did that to Bosh just once after Bosh does one of his fake foul moves. Talk about setting a tone.

Dils - February 6, 2012 reply

he barely even threw him on the ground

scola flopped. flop flop flop flop

and if you watch the video where it shows the play before it, he flops on that play too. i can’t stand watching him.

You too?

I love nastiness in a big way, it’s why I love guys like KG even though most fans hate him for being an ass. It’s also why I kinda like Rondo……yeah, I know……

dakoose - February 6, 2012 reply

We have a game preview tonight?

I need somewhere to vent my frustration about Rose being hurt again.

CSNBullsInsider Aggrey Sam
Thibs: Derrick will warm up. “I’m assuming he’s (Derrick) in, but we’ll see…Derrick’s going.” Rip not present due to a personal issue.