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Time to Get Creative: Trading for Michael Beasley.

Beasley's on my fantasy team and in a little nugget I saw while looking at his player page I saw this:

The Lakers and Minnesota have talked about a trade that would send Beasley to Los Angeles, ESPN's Chris Broussard reports. Beasley scored 17 points with seven rebounds in 33 minutes in Monday's loss to Denver.

The report says the Lakers would likely give up a second-round pick or cash.

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When you're a team at the top like the Bulls are and you're going to be drafting 28-30th in the draft for the foreseeable future(Charlotte's pick is still years away), you need to be creative when looking at ways to improve your team. And when a low-risk high-reward situation like this presents itself, I don't see how you can turn it down.

Minnesota has a minutes issue at the forward spots: Kevin Love is the main guy and will be taking up damn near all the minutes at the 4 and the team just invested a high lottery pick in Derrick Williams, who's probably their future at the 3. And if it's not him, it's Wesley Johnson. Right now, Beasley's better than either one, but the T-Wolves are not about the now, they're looking down the road and if they can unload Beasley and pick up a draft pick, they'd probably do it now that he's on the bench after being injured early on.

So why would the Bulls do this? For several reasons:

1) If the Bulls do intend to make a splash and go after Dwight Howard, they will need to part with Lieutenant Deng. Now, Beasley's not the defender Deng is, but he's a much more gifted scorer and though the defense at the 3 might suffer, you plug in a really capable scorer who can get his own shot and you have Dwight under the basket, which offsets any loss of defense and then some.

2) Even if they do not go after Dwight, why not throw our really late first rounder at Minnesota for Beasley? He's a little big for the position, but I'd give him minutes at the 2 next to Derrick, moving Ronnie back to the bench mob while Rip is out. If Beasley works out, you worry about fitting Rip back into things later and perhaps hive him some time with Derrick and some time with the bench mob and bury Kyle or Ronnie further down the bench. Beasley has the potential to be the backcourt/swingman scorer to plug in with Derrick to give this team a big-time scoring punch for the next 7-8 years.

Even if Beasley doesn't become a capable defender under Thibs, which is a big possibility, he's still a super-useful scorer off of the bench and can start for you in a pinch. People here were clamoring for JR Smith, I don't see why Beasley isn't a better option. He's got far more upside and has been a 20ppg scorer as recently as last season while miscast as a #1 scoring option.

If he doesn't work out here.......kiss his ass goodbye and all you're out on is a pick which you could probably buy from another team for a million bucks or two. I look at this as a once-in-a-while situation to acquire a big talent for a bargain price, much like Memphis did with Zach Randolph a couple of years ago. I really, really like the idea of Beasley as a second or third scoring option under the tutelage of Tom Thibodeau. What do y'all think of going after this kid?

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a shitty idea
I think the big question for the org is

How would this affect our flexibility and team chemistry going forward?

Beasley's PER has gotten lower every single year

Exactly once he suggested Beasley at the 2…my mind shut off. Beasley can’t even guard 3s…how’s he gonna fuck with 2s

Beasley's been pretty awful this year

He’s regressed across the board, and at this point, calling him a “capable scorer who can create his own shot” isn’t really justified. Throw in his awful defense, and now you know why the asking price is only a 2nd-rounder + cash.

For reference, compare these two players' stat lines this year

Player A: 17.3 points/36 min, .424 FG%, .426 3pt%, .486 TS%, 24.9 USG%
Player B: 17.1 points/36 min, .390 FG%, .417 3pt%, .481 TS%, 25.5 USG%

Player A is Michael Beasley. Player B is John Lucas the Third.

So, what you're saying is

We should lock JLIII down as soon as possible?

But we already used our max deal on DRose!

Hopefully he does not start clamoring for a trade to a team in a warmer climate.

if its for a pick, y not i guess

somebody gotta buy noah’s shwag anyway

"somebody gotta buy noah’s shwag anyway"

Beat me to it.

he would be great if we could get him for cheap

He can score the ball in an ISO situation which is great for us. If lebron guards rose and wade guards deng who guards Beasley? Barrier maybe? But then you have Chalmers on rip.

Rose-Hamilton-deng-Beasley-Noah for like 5 minutes a game would TORCH teams. Plus he’s no worse than Booze defensively.

It's not clear to me that he would be better to have than Korver

Because that’s who he would effectively be replacing.

you mean Battier*...Not Barrier
Idk why people seem so down on the idea

I like it if he’s willing to come off the bench. I’m tiring of the Brewer/Korver experiment. We need a legit bench scoring threat. Plus I’d be very interested what kind of work Thibs could do with Beasley. I don’t care if his stats have declined, he’s a talented player. If you put him in the right environment, with the right coach, in the right role, he could flourish.

All that being said, he seems like a VERY immature guy. He doesn’t seem like a bad person, but just kinda dumb, and careless. And I’m not sure that’s someone you want to bring in at the moment. It might be the type of move you make AFTER this season to switch things up, if the current squad can’t get the job done

That's all I'm saying here.

There will not be any no-brainers for the Bulls to pull off that can vastly improve the team; if they want to take another step forwards they will have to get creative and try some moves. This is a low-cost, low-risk move that can pay off enormous dividends if it works out. If it doesn’t…..you didn’t lose much.

He seems like a bad basketball player above anything else.
exactly, ive never heard of Beasley being some toxic player who ruins teams

He’s just a little hardheaded, surround him with good coaches, good leaders like Rose and Rip, and a winning situation in Chicago?

I really think he would realise the opportunity and provide a legit threat as our 6th man. CJ,Butler, Beasley, Taj, Asik. Sounds better than our current bench mob.

People are down on the idea because he is not all that good at basketball

If we could simply trade an exception for him, it becomes a win-win situation, where if he fits, we can use him, but if not there is no harm done. However, we have to give up pieces that are part of the successful system currently in place.

Since his rookie season, his PER is down, his TS% is way down, his rebound rates are down (although he does play with Love), his 3pt% is his only redeeming quality. I guess maybe giving up KK for him is not the worst idea since he is not a great defender and just gets threes anyhow, but even then, at least KK knowos the system. I’d be worried about making any trade for a guy that was not for sure a game changer. Picking up free agents or trading nothing for something on the other hand, is another story.

Beasley

is a better player than Brewer or Korver. If we can get him easily, we should.

Two things

One, you give no argument for this. Just because a guy was drafted number 2, doesn’t make him good. Furthermore, better at offense? Certainly. Better at defense? Pishh. Furthermore, they don’t even play the same positions! Beasley is splitting time between the SF and PF pretty evenly. Korver is a SG/SF and Brewer has played mostly SG. If we get rid of these players, who the hell is going to play 2 guard?

Rip
I more meant backup SG

And, with Rip injured…

jimmy butler / cj watson

Hell even deng can play the 2. We were looking into guys like Tayshawn Prince to play the 3 with deng at 2.

Backup wing players are a dime a dozen, 6-10 combo forwards with ISO skills and 3pt range are not. To have him as a 6th man would give us a totally different angle.

6-10 combo forwards with ISO skills and 3pt range

When did Lamar Odom become available?

lol good point

Odom = way better passer
Beasley = reasonably better scorer

I stopped reading when u said get rid of deng for beasley
Well then you didn't read

because he said you would trade Deng for Howard

which I should clarify

you would be a moron not to do. I love Deng. But Howard is just…….. Howard

Then you stopped reading before you started,

because like TheFunkle said, I never said that. I said that if you include Deng in a deal for Howard, you supplement that with dealing for Beasley.

There's a reason Miami traded Beasley for almost nothing when they were desperate for pieces to surround the big 3

It’s because Beasley is a potential cancer to a team. Do we really want a guy like that? The fact that Minnesota is willing to trade him should speak volumes as well. If a rebuilding team doesn’t want a young talent, he has to be a total headcase.

Do you really think Beasley would react well to Thibs too? Thibs isn’t going to play him and he’d probably be in the doghouse for his horrendous D and selfish offense.

Beas is probably in the top 10 players I would not want to see the Bulls trade for.

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