Lu probably deserves to be an All Star when you consider his all around game
but I don’t see how he get’s in if he continues to put up stinkers every few games like tonight, and the Atlanta game. The numbers just won’t be there.
On Sportscenter they just show like two Rose highlights and the final score
Which isn’t really a big deal anyway considering it’s the coaches that will have to get Lu in, but I just cant see him making it with the numbers he currently has.
but even when he’s playing great, he doesn’t produce numbers that really pop out at you. That’s really my point. As much as the coaches want to reward players on winning teams (which they’ve done in the past), I have a hard time seeing it unless Lu really busts out offensively
is the melo/stoudemire problem. one of them will get voted in. but you can’t legit leave the other out, can you? but then like… the knicks fucking suck.
hes focusing on the wrong parts of the game that hes not good at. For example, trying to post up and and toss up a ridiculous hook shot. He needs to stick to his high energy game ON DEFENSE and from there on everything will come back to him.
i’m fine with Noah shooting put backs and with the occasional hook shot, but he isn’t an offensive player. And when he shares the floor with 3 superior offensive players (4 when Hamilton gets back) he should concentrate on bringing out his inner tyson chandler or ben wallace.
I'm starting to think this is more of a result of the injuries taking some of his athleticism away
Noah was never a Tyrus level athlete, but he was pretty athletic in his own right. He just doesn’t seem as quick all around. Recovering on defense, driving the ball, moving up and down the court, second and third efforts for rebounds.. everything just seems a touch slow.
and I’m fine with that, he used to get pushed around too much before. IMO it wasn’t worth the quickness, he’s been more of a bully this and last year and i think that’s a good thing. His numbers are never going to be great, but he’s a good player, and he makes clutch plays with hustle and heart. I think the numbers don’t truly show his impact on a game.
well its because he isnt howard on defense... i mean..i9 am not saying we need howard...
but the fact is that the concept is that boozer needs a solid defensive center that can help mask boozer on the defensive end and also a team with goodhelp defense….
if the noah/booz isnt working… IMO its more noah… if boozer gets a 16-18ppg avg with 8-12 rbs…then its noah not being the defender he is stuppose to be… he isnt rebounding like last year,,, and he is getting called for so many stupid fould…and i am not on the boat that his physical abilities arent what they used to be….
I'm hesitant to rip all the Scalabrine loons because I'm pretty sure
if I was at the game and had 3-4 drinks in me I’d be screaming with the rest of em just for fun. But gd if it’s not annoying as hell when you’re watching from home
when the game didn’t visually look like they played that well. I think sometimes it’s hard to see how great a defense is until you look at the final score. And of course, Detroit sucks.
This was the funniest and it wasn't in the comments but from the preview/game thread:
At 2-3, the Pistons were actually inspiring some hope in its fanbase. They had just won their second straight and outrebounded an opponent for the third straight game. Then the Pistons played the Bulls in front of 173 people at The Palace and the proverbial wheels flew off and the rims have been getting completely ruined ever since.
Scal with the fade
Bin Bin - January 9, 2012
LOL
The KIA postgame highlight of the game was Scal’s fadeaway J
Bullforlife - January 9, 2012
I like how Thibs
fucks with Scal after the game. “Don’t take that shot”…and before Scal realizes what’s going on he’s like OH GOD I’M DOOMED.
Hahaha
Joninja - January 9, 2012
Lu probably deserves to be an All Star when you consider his all around game
but I don’t see how he get’s in if he continues to put up stinkers every few games like tonight, and the Atlanta game. The numbers just won’t be there.
Juiceboxjerry - January 9, 2012
I was just htinking that.
And I’m thinking bout Noah as well, he didn’t attempt a field goal!
OdwallaJuicish - January 9, 2012
he is making a highlight reel
in the close games that get mentioned on sportscenter, so he might get in.
Nih1lus - January 9, 2012
On Sportscenter they just show like two Rose highlights and the final score
Which isn’t really a big deal anyway considering it’s the coaches that will have to get Lu in, but I just cant see him making it with the numbers he currently has.
Juiceboxjerry - January 9, 2012
if he can bounce back enough
no one will remember these two games. especially a game where the whole team sucked. too early to say.
Jaina - January 9, 2012
Yeah, he'll absolutely bounce back
but even when he’s playing great, he doesn’t produce numbers that really pop out at you. That’s really my point. As much as the coaches want to reward players on winning teams (which they’ve done in the past), I have a hard time seeing it unless Lu really busts out offensively
Juiceboxjerry - January 9, 2012
i think if he can get back to like 18ppg
he could get it. but he def took a step backwards with these last two..
Jaina - January 9, 2012
its obviously fatigue
he looks gassed. Hell bounce back.
Geo4MVP - January 9, 2012
the real thing about the all star thing
is the melo/stoudemire problem. one of them will get voted in. but you can’t legit leave the other out, can you? but then like… the knicks fucking suck.
Jaina - January 9, 2012
Luol hurt his All Star chances when he shaved the LuHawk
Brigade17 - January 9, 2012
I'm starting to actively dislike Noah again.
He’s regressed this year.
2ndHalfAdjustments - January 9, 2012
something's up
cant see how he’d be outta shape, he played all summer. but he looks like it
paddyfairview - January 9, 2012
i think he just pushing it
hes focusing on the wrong parts of the game that hes not good at. For example, trying to post up and and toss up a ridiculous hook shot. He needs to stick to his high energy game ON DEFENSE and from there on everything will come back to him.
Geo4MVP - January 9, 2012
i thought he was better tonight
he rebounded, he played D, and he didn’t try to do anything outside of his ability.
Basketball Smurf - January 9, 2012
like attempt a FG?
TheMoon - January 9, 2012
well, yes
i’m fine with Noah shooting put backs and with the occasional hook shot, but he isn’t an offensive player. And when he shares the floor with 3 superior offensive players (4 when Hamilton gets back) he should concentrate on bringing out his inner tyson chandler or ben wallace.
Basketball Smurf - January 9, 2012
I'm starting to think this is more of a result of the injuries taking some of his athleticism away
Noah was never a Tyrus level athlete, but he was pretty athletic in his own right. He just doesn’t seem as quick all around. Recovering on defense, driving the ball, moving up and down the court, second and third efforts for rebounds.. everything just seems a touch slow.
Juiceboxjerry - January 9, 2012
are you implying he might be currently hurt?
or just that all of his injuries over the past few seasons have taken their toll on his long-term health?
I’m hoping he’s not permanently damaged goods at age 25 or whatever..
Rose Colored Goggles - January 9, 2012
Idk, maybe a combination of the two
Juiceboxjerry - January 9, 2012
Well he's spent a lot of time in the gym bulking up
So that’s probably a contributor to his losing quickness
Poloplaya14 - January 9, 2012
It's the bulking up that's slowing him down
and I’m fine with that, he used to get pushed around too much before. IMO it wasn’t worth the quickness, he’s been more of a bully this and last year and i think that’s a good thing. His numbers are never going to be great, but he’s a good player, and he makes clutch plays with hustle and heart. I think the numbers don’t truly show his impact on a game.
MartyMondays - January 9, 2012
i think he is just overrated.... he is still a very good center...but not an all defensive 2nd team like center
IIQuickSilverII - January 9, 2012
I still don't think that he can play with Boozer
Dils - January 9, 2012
well its because he isnt howard on defense... i mean..i9 am not saying we need howard...
but the fact is that the concept is that boozer needs a solid defensive center that can help mask boozer on the defensive end and also a team with goodhelp defense….
if the noah/booz isnt working… IMO its more noah… if boozer gets a 16-18ppg avg with 8-12 rbs…then its noah not being the defender he is stuppose to be… he isnt rebounding like last year,,, and he is getting called for so many stupid fould…and i am not on the boat that his physical abilities arent what they used to be….
IIQuickSilverII - January 9, 2012
I'm hesitant to rip all the Scalabrine loons because I'm pretty sure
if I was at the game and had 3-4 drinks in me I’d be screaming with the rest of em just for fun. But gd if it’s not annoying as hell when you’re watching from home
Juiceboxjerry - January 9, 2012
my wife couldn't understand why it pissed me off so much
Rose Colored Goggles - January 9, 2012
i think its worse in person. no mute button.
TheMoon - January 9, 2012
Agreed
This White Mamba shit is embarrassing. Way worse than screaming for a free Big Mac or whatever.
Stretch5000 - January 9, 2012
I don't know how you win by 24
when the game didn’t visually look like they played that well. I think sometimes it’s hard to see how great a defense is until you look at the final score. And of course, Detroit sucks.
Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. - January 9, 2012
THIS.
I take next to nothing from this game. Nobody got injured, and our main guys didn’t have to play 40 minutes. That’s about the only accomplishment.
Juiceboxjerry - January 9, 2012
Ronnie Brewer is coming closer to proving his hot start isn't a fluke
Rose Colored Goggles - January 9, 2012
i think he still relies on off ball movement which wont be effective against elite defensive teams.
TheMoon - January 9, 2012
I agree for the most part
but both he and Deng have looked better off the dribble this season than at any point last year.
Rose Colored Goggles - January 9, 2012
hopefuly that 3ptr from the corner is becoming money in the playoff
IIQuickSilverII - January 9, 2012
Yep
And early season last year, this was not the case. The Kings were hard to beat, the Pistons were hard to beat. These teams are no longer hard to beat.
JockstrapNoah - January 9, 2012
and the team was relatively new
that was a big facotr and since thye have a yr of exp playing together, they are now accustomed to working a unit more consistently.
Geo4MVP - January 9, 2012
but they played great defensivly too
IIQuickSilverII - January 9, 2012
Juiceboxjerry - January 10, 2012
so if I get my shot blocked, it counts as a missed FG right?
if you then grab the ball after its been blocked, does that count as a rebound?
TheMoon - January 9, 2012
Not sure, good question
Although, yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s a rebound. But maybe it’s just not a stat. Maybe it’s just like gathering a pass
Juiceboxjerry - January 9, 2012
Might be a team rebound
jrobulls - January 9, 2012
I think the ball has to hit rim or backboard to be a rebound
tuluse - January 9, 2012
Rebound
chicity773 - January 9, 2012
Example:
chicity773 - January 9, 2012
derrick is really struggling with his shooting so far.
his finishing has been excellent though.
TheMoon - January 9, 2012
His 3pt shooting is the problem.
If you discounted all 3pt shots, I’d bet he is above 50%
Brigade17 - January 9, 2012
he needs to continue to shoot those open looks though... no hessitation... it wil come....
IIQuickSilverII - January 9, 2012
Yeah he is
Deng and Rip (when he’s played) are also really struggling to hit jumpers. Yet we’re still 7th in ORtg. Pretty encouraging if you ask me.
Poloplaya14 - January 9, 2012
deng ... i dunno games like today.. he really struggled.... also taj... but for him is just regular to miss that many FG... his midrange BLOWS
IIQuickSilverII - January 9, 2012
some thoughts from our friends at Detroit Bad Boys
kpd - January 9, 2012
LULZ
IIQuickSilverII - January 9, 2012
This was the funniest and it wasn't in the comments but from the preview/game thread:
chicity773 - January 9, 2012
yeah... last game in the palace was pretty empty, it was depresing....
IIQuickSilverII - January 9, 2012
And all of them came to watch drose and scal
trig - January 9, 2012
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