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The two that were, and will the Bulls have Rip Hamilton for the three to come?

If you haven't already, make sure you read Alex's recap of the weekend contests. To me, one really encouraging game that more than balanced out the discouragement from the following night. The way the Bulls were able to throttle Orlando on the boards to pull away late was really something, and like Stan Van Gundy said postgame, his team is a level below the Bulls.

The Bulls are also likely a level above Atlanta as well, but between Saturday night's bomb and the Bulls epic comeback win the prior week, the Hawks are looking like a potentially tougher postseason out than they were last season. Or at least: just as tough and maybe the familiarity by now making it more annoying. As Alex noted, there are some facets that could be blamed on fatigue (lack of closing out on shooters, and even the low foul number), but not all. Everyone has a tough schedule this season, and some simply weird results are likely to occur, but maybe the Hawks are less impacted by such things because they rarely play with sustained aggression or discipline anyway. They do have good top-level talent, pose a matchup problem for the Bulls, and specifically for Derrick Rose in the way they can trap. Almost a Miami-lite.

What was done in the offseason to help counteract such a defensive tactic was signing Rip Hamilton, and his ongoing groin injury is still, well ongoing:

"It takes time, man," Hamilton said of his sore groin. "I probably should've have played [against Detroit] but you couldn't keep me off that floor."

Hamilton injured his groin in a Dec. 30 win over the Clippers and came back too soon to play against his former teammates in Detroit and re-aggravated it. At this point, it could be several days before Hamilton is ready to return, although coach Tom Thibodeau maintains he's day to day.

"The thing that's difficult right now is he's not practicing so you don't really know what he can do and what he can't do," Thibodeau said. "We just want to be smart."

There is slightly better news for CJ Watson, whose elbow is now out of a sling, though no timetable has been set on his return either.

John Lucas has been way better than (I) expected, and Kyle Korver has shot the ball really well the past couple of nights, and it goes without saying the Bulls are well-equipped to handle minor issues like this. But while it's all about the future playoffs run, it'll be nice to use some regular season games to get the likely starting unit on the same page.

And look what's next, the back-to-back-to-back. It's never really going to be easy.

Star-divide

Other random stuff:

  • Done before the Atlanta game, some interesting stats on Derrick Rose's increased passing (both willingness and effectiveness) on the pick and roll.
  • Random tidbit in Sam Smith's Orlando game recap that I liked:
    I’ve noticed that the Bulls open every game with a Deng shot, which it seems Thibodeau uses as a reward for Deng’s hard play and big minutes. Larry Brown always gave shots to Ben Wallace in Detroit as a thank you even though they were, essentially, wasted efforts the way Wallace shot. But it is a way coaches show appreciation.
  • And here's a check-in on former Bull James Johnson that made me chuckle:
    he reminds me of an advent calendar. You open up little doors looking for magic and usually you get a milk dud. I like his energy, I like his intentions. I don’t like what he produces.
  • There's a Bulls Beat podcast up recapping the weekend games, and going through some big-picture roster configuration stuff. Wondering when the starting Boozer-Noah lineup be addressed (not soon, but the question is creeping up more and more), and if Jimmy Butler has a solid rookie year who he's most likely going to replace in the rotation going forward.
  • As the Bulls were in Orlando, lots of Dwight Howard to Bulls re-hashing: SamSmith/SheridanHoops/Chasing23. No real news though, Otis Smith isn't really listening, and Derrick Rose isn't going to talk.

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If John Lucas continues to play well, is there any chance that CJ gets Wally Pipped out of the backup PG role?

His %s will come back down to earth, but if he continues to hit at least a reasonable % of his jumpers while taking care of the ball, I think he might actually prove to be a better offensive player than Watson. Watson’s the far better defender though.

hope not

CJ still >>>>> that Lucas, imo

I can't let this go...
“It takes time, man,” Hamilton said of his sore groin. “I probably should’ve have played [against Detroit] but you couldn’t keep me off that floor.”

WTF does that mean?? Groin or whatever, a comment like this is not conducive to great chemistry for a team that won’t draft or trade certain players because of it. I think that may be one of the stupidest things I ever heard. A lot of people argued that Rip would be a good fit and maybe he’ll prove to be so later this season. But all I can base production on is what’s actually happening on the court and right now he’s not on it.

Anything that’s adding more pressure on Rose during a season like this is a negative. This signing as of right now is looking like a bust and Caron Butler would have been the better signing.

When I saw Rip playing I thought: "that's it! great sign"

Now that he is not playing I’m thinking “shouldn’t have signed his old ass! He may be better than some in the market but at least the others play!”

I hope that is just a misfortune but I’m starting to think Rip is going to be a bit of a headache

it's early.

but he would have been a big help in the atlanta game.

Injuries happen.

Compared to injuries some other teams have experienced (and will experience) the groin and a dislocated elbow are relatively minor. Rip has never proven himself an iron man, so of course we’re all going to slap our foreheads at the first sign of him breaking down, but at the same time, his injury is relatively minor.

do the bulls have possibly the easiest back to back to back?

their opponents are a combined 5-19.

@Wolves won't be a walk in the park

It hasn’t been for the Heats, Thunder, Spurs and Mavs. Wolves are 2-2 in those games at the Target Center.

mavs are still under .500 themselves

not saying it will be super easy, but just objectively i was musing whether any other back to back to back set in the league on paper looks so.

the thing with our team is that we never know when they will just suck bad

we had our share last year

i'm hoping we got that out of our system. at least for now. lol
Something tells me Derrick will have a huge game against them
he likes his one-on-ones with other PGs
Derrick Rose famously has reasons for big games after he's had said big game and someone needs to come up with a reason

and if he doesn’t: just wasn’t aggressive.

Nothing will be easy this year.
as i said above

i was just musing as to whether we have, theoretically, the easiest back to back to back. it really doesn’t get much easier than 3 sub .500 teams, 2 of them being at home.

bulls need to win these next 3

itll def provide a big cushion for the tougher teams down the schedule.

so...basically Groin-ing pains?
and, honestly...

Jason Richardson looks like he is just an injury-prone as Rip. In one sense, Richardson still skies for the alley-oop and the like, which is going to put him at greater and greater risk, at his age. Rip has a good “old man’s game”, no and can be expected to last longer.

With high expectations, I think Rip will step up and give us what we need over the long haul.

At this point I'd still rather have a DNP version of Rip than what Richardson is doing in Orlando
or of what Richadson is NOT doing in Orlando
yeah seriously

his efficiency is down to what it was his ROOKIE YEAR. no joke. they’re almost exactly the same. and even his FT shooting has taken a dive. i’m actually really surprised looking at his career numbers that he’s not a better FT shooter.

If you go back to free agency and all the options we had

After looking at 2 weeks of play (small but effective sample size), RIP still seems like the best and most logical fit. The hell with the groin, it should be fine eventually, right?

Butler is looking good

but he did get a big ass contract

while i was warming up to the idea of butler originally

the guy isn’t a two. i don’t think he’d do as well here as he’s doing with the clippers. and he’s still only 9/30 on threes (that 43% he shot before he got hurt last season was a MAJOR outlier).

plus, talk about iron men

butler’s never played a full season. he’ll get hurt eventually.

yeah I was pointing him out but I never trusted his health either
i was against Rip, at first...

He looked outdated last year…

I forgot how efficient his play could be. I think if Noah gets back to his hustle-master ways, he and Rip could unite and glue this team together. Rip is the master of the broken-play jumper. We are the masters of the broken play (on both ends, for better or worse)…

I want to give Rip a new nickname… the Janitor. One, because I kept forgetting he was on the floor and, Two, because I see him cleaning up a lot of messes for us.

(and the mask...)

(need a white elastic on it or something… it just doesn’t look good…)

yeah, i mean i don't mind

and i’d rather him be out now than later. butler will probably break his face and miss the playoffs again.

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