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Queue scrutiny of Thibs' minutes management after blowout over horrible Pistons team

No better way to say it; the Pistons are a pile of dung with no redeeming quality and they lost to the Bulls in a way you'd expect.

The Bulls closed out the last 7:20 of the first half on a 20-9 run that put them up 51-35, holding a completely inept Detroit squad to 31% shooting. Mid-way through the third quarter, the Pistons put together an 11-3 run to put them within 12 at the 4:26 mark and closed out the quarter down 71-58. The Bulls opened the fourth with a 5-0 run to put them up by 18, but Detroit responded with an 11-4 run, closing the Bulls lead to 11 at the 6:38 mark. The Pistons wouldn't get any closer for the remainder of the game.

Derrick Rose played all but the final 1:13 of the second half. Luol Deng played the entire third quarter, as well as the first 5:28 of the fourth and another 4:11 after resting 1:28 for 21:39 of playing time in the second half of a game where the Bulls were up by as much as 20 and were never up by less than 11.

Star-divide

Doug Thonus lays out the concern pretty clearly:

The Chicago Bulls are going to make the playoffs. They are going to get a top four seed. There simply is no way this doesn't happen. Quite honestly, it's hard to imagine them not getting a top two seed unless they suffer an injury.

Last year, the Bulls struggled in the playoffs with nagging injuries. Carlos Boozer had a toe. Joakim Noah's ankle never fully recovered. Derrick Rose had something going on that cost him some explosion.

It's time that Tom Thibodeau take in one final lesson from Doc Rivers. In the year Boston lost to the Lakers in game seven, Doc rested all of his players down the stretch. They lost spots in the seeding, but they hit the playoffs with fresh legs. The team then surprised everyone by coming within a Kendrick Perkins injury from winning the NBA title [and almost won in spite of Perk's injury].

The oversimplification of the comparison to the 2010 Celtics aside, there's no denying that the Bulls' health issues last season where in no way helpful. Those injuries were only harmful and they still landed the top seed in the conference and made the Eastern Conference Finals, sparking inevitable 'what ifs' and a raised scrutiny this season -- of all seasons -- where health will prove to be king like no other NBA schedule format.

The criticism is valid, but there's the counter that the core of this Bulls team simply doesn't have the on-court minutes together than the core of the target on which Thonus shamelessly fixates in the same post: the Heat.

There are game situations where you ride your thoroughbreds and others where you take the win and take drastic measures to minimize long-term risk. The scoreboard says you do the latter, but there's an argument that the timing of the Pistons' runs disrupted rotating Rose and Deng out for longer periods of rest.

The argument for Deng is that he sat the Bulls' 20-7 in the 2nd quarter, only playing the first 3:34 and the final 0:46 after playing the entire second quarter. The argument for Rose is that he rested the first 7:07 of that 2nd quarter and that the risk of pulling the most reliable scorer when the team is getting stopped and the opponent is connecting only prolongs the opponent's run, cutting into the deficit, and lowering the win probability.

Thibs' minutes management will be under the microscope all season because of the schedule's nature, the 'what ifs' that followed the Bulls rising above all expectations despite injuries, and the fact that he consistently defies what observers perceive as conventional wisdom. His philosophy is unclear; is riding hot hands and momentum, disciplining and rewarding in-game, pre-planned with contingencies according to prior and upcoming loads? It's easy to jump at one, but all we can say for now is that it's sporadic enough to comfortably say that Thibs goes with his gut. The gut is well-educated with a compulsion for the video room and statistical analysis of how every three-, four-, and five-man unit on his team produces, but there's an unpredictability about it and we're all unsure how many parts of the cocktail are genius and how many are madness.

If you wanna take Sam Smith's advice, just deal with it, I guess:

If you like Thibodeau's coaching, this comes with it.

He believes in playing your best players the most minutes. When the Bulls won championships in the early 1990's, Michael Jordan averaged more than 39 minutes per game and Scottie Pippen averaged just under 39 minutes. And both were slightly older than Rose and Deng are now.

So second guess all you want. I seriously doubt it's changing. And even with Deng not having a strong game Wednesday, Thibodeau took him out midway through the fourth quarter with the Bulls ahead by 11, but brought him back about 90 seconds later for the finish.

Rose has actually played fractions of a minute less so far this season (36.9) than last season (37.4) and his career average (37.1). Deng is second in the league with 39.4 MPG only to Monta Ellis' 40.2 and totaled over a minute less than that average in Wednesday's game. That said, the two both in the top ten in the NBA per game, but surprisingly five of those are guards and four are point guards (Rose, John Wall, Brandon Jennings, and Jarrett Jack).

Rose's bruised elbow

As mentioned in yfBB's recap, X-rays cleared Rose of any serious injury to his elbow after sustaining a rough fall with 3:36 remaining in the game. All in all, Rose said, "It's a bruise, but I'm good. I just got knocked off, but I'm fine. It has happened before so I should be all right. It's just like any other time you fall. You're going to be sore. Thank God we don't play (Thursday) and I can rest."

The more minutes he plays, the more minutes there are for him to get hurt, but the probability of getting hurt is the same in a drive to the basket in the first minute of the game than in the final minutes. There were three bad-looking fouls in that quarter, but they're largely being blown out of proportion. Rose is a daredevil and Ben Gordon's too small to challenge an attempt by Joakim Noah without his arm getting caught wrapped around a part of Noah's body. It sucked that it was his neck, but all was well and there was clearly no intention to wrap up his neck. Please don't say you believe that.

The risk later in blowouts isn't the frustration of competitors being expressed, but that there are two states of playing a sport where everyone's risk of injury heightens: when players play too aggressive and when players are deliberately too passive. We may have seen the latter last night, if anything.

Rose is a tough kid. He played it out, but it's completely reasonable to say the coach had absolutely no reason to send him back out there.

Other notes:

  • Lost in the minutes hysteria is that Rose had another perfect night beyond the three-point arc, bricking all six of his long-range attempts. He's now bricked 23 of his last 30 (76.7%), 21 of all 25 (84%) attempts outside of the Staples Center this season, and a whopping 271 of his last 379 (71.5%) since Jan. 7, 2011. In other news, he was also 5-for-5 at the rim, shooting a great 64.9% there this season and his long-2 attempts are down to two per game from 4.5 last season and 6.9 in 2009-10, according to Hoopdata.
  • C.J. Watson actually dislocated his elbow. "I just felt it pop out of place and suffered a lot of pain. I was hoping it wouldn't be anything really, really bad but I knew I would be out for a bit. When I bent it myself it popped back into place. I guess that was a good thing. [...] They're saying a week or so or day-to-day depending on how much pain I can handle."
  • John Lucas III is getting it done. He's 4-for-7 (57.1%) on 3s for 14 points, four assists, two rebounds, and two turnovers in 23 minutes. His eFG% is .583 over the minute sample and the turnover rate's an acceptable 14.3%, the assist rate's over 30% (31.8%) and his PER's at 18.9. The defense can make the eyes bleed, but he's the 5'11" backup to the backup. Solid guy to have. (Stats via Basketball-Reference)
  • Thibs picked his spots wisely to throw the halfcourt trap against the ballstopping Joe Johnson late in Wednesday's game, Beckley Mason noted in a great visual analysis.
  • CSN Chicago's 7.66 rating for Tuesday's game made it the highest rated regular season game in the network's history.
  • The Celtics reportedly called the Kings about a trade to acquire DeMarcus Cousins. Over/under on the amount of days it wil take for Kevin Garnett to whack him in the back of the head?
  • When the Pacers were 4-1, it was time to begin wondering how much of that is related to the acquisition of David West has now begun. Until, of course, the Heat go 18-for-26 at the rim and 24-for-26 at the line against them.
  • The Cavs went into last night 3-2 through the first five games and had people wondering. I don't know what people were wondering, but that's just kind of something people who write about sports say, so I said it. I'll let Matt McHale take over from here:
    Would you believe that, according to Basketball-Reference, the Cadavers currently rank 12th in both Offensive and Defensive Rating? And they're 11th in MOV (2.67), ahead of both the Celtics (2.43) and Thunder (0.57). Could...could it be...that Cleveland isn't horrible this season?

    Nah. Last night's 92-77 loss to the Craptors should dispell any delusions of adequacy on the part of the Cadavers. Cleveland actually shot better from three-point range (30.4 percent) than overall (29.6 percent). But that's nothing to start throwing confetti about.

    [...]

    Bonus bawful: The Cads and Craptors combined four 8 fast break points. This, my friends, is what we call Scalper's Night Off.

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I think my issue with Thibs' minute distribution was not the number of minutes Rose played

(although I wouldn’t mind the number going down), but the fact that he played the entire second half. No need for him to start the fourth quarter against the Pistons (!) when we have a double digit lead. It’s overkill. And spare me Sam Smith’s stuff about how “This is the way he coaches”, because that’s a total cop out. The way he used Rose last night was completely unnecessary.

Bottom line is that he is going to have to learn to adapt.

Will he? What we’ve seen so far says no…but with 11 games in like 15 days coming up, maybe he will start to see the light at some point if they Bulls have a clunker or two.

"this comes with it" is the cop out for the reason I expressed in the post...

Neither Sam Smith nor anyone else can articulate Thibs’ philosophy on how to manage a rotation. We can only speculate.

Analyzing the game flow, I can only assume Rose started the 4th to extend their lead, but the Pistons ignited another run at that point to play Lucas the remainder of the game, just as they did when he was likely planning to pull Rose in the 3rd before his 4Q shift.

I’m for resting in the middle of the second half — almost always. I’m more for needing the inevitable rally with your best rested over extending them and risking wear and tear on the tail-end of a back-to-back on the road, but I empathize that there was very inopportune timing of those two runs. And I call the comparison to the ’10 Cs an “oversimplification” because home or road, the conference was still theirs to lose. That team was inherently better equipped to beat those Cavs and Magic teams on any floor than these Bulls are to beat the Heat.

Exactly
I’m for resting in the middle of the second half — almost always. I’m more for needing the inevitable rally with your best rested over extending them and risking wear and tear on the tail-end of a back-to-back on the road

And yeah, I kinda understand where Thibs was coming from as well. If you extend the lead big enough, you can take him out earlier. But I think that’s a poor habit that Thibs needs to move away from. ESPECIALLY when one of our biggest strengths is supposed to be our depth, and solid bench play

I consider Phil Jackson to be the best coach in history...

And I always liked how he would try to rest MJ at the end of 1st and 3rd quarters, as the break between would give him even more real time rest while the clock was stopped. This is what I would like to see Thibs do regardless of situation with Rose…then depending on the flow of the game, continue the rest into the 2nd and 4th until situation dictates Rose to return.

I don’t have an issue with of the other player’s minutes. I want the best players on the floor together for most of the game, and Thibs does a good job of using his full rotation.

This.

Although I would also add it again wasn’t so much the number of minutes, but also playing him at the very end with a double digit lead that wasn’t in serious jeopardy at all. That seemed like a prime time to take him and other starters out…I was joining in the chorus looking at my screen of take him out…why is he in there now? Does Thibs really think he needs more experience closing? I know Thibs doesn’t, but I sure was frustrated. Even if he hadn’t hurt his elbow there was no good reason for him being in there.

Agreed.
Pistons are a pile of dung with no redeeming quality and they lost to the Bulls in a way you’d expect.
Disagreed

Only because they are going to prove themselves a challenger for the 7th and 8th seeds this season, and the difference between the Bulls and Pistons is the difference between a dominant top of the conference team and maybe the 16th best team in the league.

The Pistons looked great against the magic and the pacers. The Bulls are going to make EVERY middling team look awful.

Orlando always

struggles with Detroit. I can not envision that collection of players making the playoffs.

And even the worst teams win games every now and again. Hell, the 12-70 2010 Nets beat our Bulls twice!

Agreed.

I still think Detroit will be lucky to win 10 games…

Stupid thing to say about ANY NBA team.

Those guy have pride, and they’re only a few steps behind the Bulls.

Typical loser mentality to start badmouthing opponents 5 games into a season.

Also, everybody knows that when you start playing not to get injured, that’s when you get injured.

Play the games hard, enjoy the wins when they come (don’t piss on the other team) and quit trying to outsmart fate.

Whaaaa?

“A few steps behind the Bulls”? Maybe if a Tyrannosaurus is the one doing the steppin’

Alright, who would the C's give up for Cousins?

Rondo seems a bit too much for Cousins. Maybe if the Kings threw in other assets.

One of the big 3? It is not out of the question that the C’s blow up there core and pick up a bunch of young assets to move forward with. You would need to keep KG around in order to beat up on cousins.

Rookies / picks? I do not think that the C’s have any rookies that look to be anything but role players. I am not sure of their other assets. I think they have a Clippers pick that is top 10 protected.

Do the kings have a bad contract?

C’s could give Green expiring, a pick and pick a bad contract
Tho I still think Kings can do better than that

Green's contract was voided
man, I'm having a bad day
Kevin Garnett?

I think he is expiring…but they would likely need a 3rd team to make the deal work.

like i posted in the other cousins thread

maybe they give up rondo for cousins fredette and a pick?

that would give them two good pieces to add to the big 3 while also giving them a decent core for the future and possibly a star in this years draft

My completely unrealistic scenario would be

Kings get: Boozer
Celtics get: Cousins
Bulls get: Garnett

There would have to be some heavy lifting to match the Boozer-Garnett-Cousins salaries, but yeah… now I’m done.

in some strange way it would almost be like a trade to the bulls would make garnett pull his head out of his ass.

but probably not.

I suppose it's just my selfish desire to see what a Thibodeau

defense would look like with Garnett and Noah roaming the paint. Swoon.

But they hate eachother!!!

Our chemistry would be ruined!!

FYI - it was Tuesday's game against the Hawks, not last night's against the Pistons that set the CSN high.

That threw me off for a minute…would have been strange that a middle of the week game against a weak opponent with a BCS game (mind you a not quite as appealing one) on at the same time set that kind of record. Even the BaB game thread seemed a bit sparse.

Tuesday’s home opener after last year’s season and a promising start certainly makes sense though.

Sorry. My calendar's screwed up.

I haven’t conducted a class in four weeks and the whole Christmas on a Sunday, NYE on a Saturday, and every day since feeling like a Monday since Tuesday’s completely thrown me out of whack.

No big deal. Figured that was what you meant.

Glad BlobaBull brought you aboard. Always enjoyed your stuff on chicagonow page.

BlobaBull. Great site that one.

The preview button is your friend bleigh82.

Except, that was Sunday.
Tuesday’s home opener after last year’s season and a promising start certainly makes sense though.
Bleh. Dummy me. Of course.
Thibs wants to be intense, whatever.

But there’s pretty much no excuse or logic to putting Rose back in the game after he took that fall. It’s a dumb decision and eventually it’ll come back to haunt him.

I don't want Thibs resting his guys Popovich or Rivers style.

All I would ask of his is to not play his fucking starters for damn near the entire fourth quarter when you’re up big against the Fucking Detroit Pistons!

I dunno, maybe he wants to make sure that the starters all mesh well with Rip before he starts cutting some of their minutes. That’s definitely a possibility.

Pretty sure he has 10.
Carlos Boozer had a toe.
i dunno

the bag might have 1 or 2

Re: Starters (in particular, Rose) being in when game is in hand

Reminded me of this game:
http://www.nba.com/bulls/video/2010/12/13/1213_PACERS_BULLS_RECAP.mov/index.html

Up 12 with 4-5 minutes to go is NOT a safe lead, even againsts the crappy pistons, who beat the magic th eother day

I have no problem with thibs last night

Deng and Rose, are not KG and Ray Allen. yeah they may look tired, but they will recover much easier than guys in thier 30s.

when you have a ferrari, never tap the brake!

yeah except they had a bigger lead with 3 minutes left,

and they were still out there. and the deng thing is just through the fucking looking glass. it makes zero sense for him to log the time he does on such a deep team.

I don't have a problem with how many minutes Rose/Deng played last night

I do think they played too many in the Memphis game. They shouldn’t have played at all in the 4th. But look, Rose and Deng are the team’s most valuable players and are going to play the most because of that. They are also young and well-conditioned, so it’s not surprising, nor should anyone be too worried, that they will be near the top in the league for minutes played. Boozer and Noah are the one’s Thib needs to watch their minutes because they have injury histories. Even though Deng played a lot of minutes last night, he really didn’t look like he exerted himself that much, so I doubt it would have made much difference than if he rested for 3-5 minutes more. I also think, this early in the season, these minutes are meant to get the team working well together and get the offense fixed and running smoothly. What good is it to rest everyone for the playoffs when they can’t run anything smoothly or look uncomfortable playing with each other?

I thought Rose was taken out with like 4 minutes left in the 3rd and never came back

Dunno about Deng, but I don’t remember him playing well into the 4th either.

nope

gameflow

it just seemed like deng wasn’t in cause he wasn’t doing much heh

Think

he’s talking about the Memphis game.

I was referring to the Memphis game

gameflow

sorry, my bad!
but yeah for the memphis game

only thing i thought was odd was how long ronnie was out there. butler could have been subbed in a lot sooner.

I agree

Brewer’s been playing well, and Rip was out, but I want me more Jimmy Butler, dammit! The guy is fun to watch, and plays well when he’s in there.

I don't see this being a popular opinion, but I think D.Rose has some responsibility on this as well.

With around 2-3 minutes left and a decent lead, on one possession he drove hard as soon as they brought the ball down, where he really probably should have rested his legs and just ate some clock. Also, I know right now it’s all about winning, but I don’t think he really needs to be making higher risk drives in late 4th quarter minutes with a blowout lead.

He is so fast, but as we all know he just doesn’t have the size and build of a lot of people who play aggressive like that. He builds up so much forward momentum on his drives that there’s always a chance of a catastrophic mishap at the end of the drive. It might be on D.Rose to also manage his minutes a bit, realize when he can afford to cut back on risk.

Guess we are hunted by our own ghosts

Bulls keep coming back from (almost) impossible games and now they are scared that everyone will climb back on them

a little OT but it's about another Thibs trend (maybe)

It looks like he is determined to be a little more vocal over bad calls. He has 2 (or 3) Ts already and has even talked about it to the media once.
I like that

Good

Bulls get no respect from officials, and it makes no sense (other than the fact that the Bulls generally don’t argue calls). They’re an elite team, one of the largest markets, with one of the largest fanbases outside their home area. You’d think that if anything they’d get more calls.

Though maybe the league is slowly making up for all the phantom calls Jordan got in the 90’s.

those were mostly hand checks.

though derrick got a questionable one on the drive where he hurt himself. it’s a process.

How about this for non-news?

KC retweeted this from a Magic beat writer:

@JoshuaBRobbins
Asked about his interest or lack of interest in #Chicago #Bulls, Dwight Howard said he wasn’t talking about trade stuff.

I've figured it's a done deal.

Rose is signing his Adidas extension now, Howard’s is due next year. Adidas has publicly said they are against Rose & D12 playing for the same team, and Rose’s extension is now apparently worth up to $250mil. If Adidas tells D12 that he doesn’t get his extension if he goes to Chicago, I doubt there’s much the Bulls could do. And I’m guessing Dwight would rather say “no comment” than admit he’s skipping a good opportunity for an endorsement contract.

When did Adidas say this?
Adidas has publicly said they are against Rose & D12 playing for the same team
I'm looking for the quote...

Sorry, I misread it.

It was on Yahoo, the exact quote was “Adidas simply cannot have its two signature players on the same team in the same market. … Derrick is the face of that market, owns that market, and Adidas can’t possibly have maximum bang for its buck with Dwight there.” But it’s not tied directly to an Adidas representative, just a “high ranking sneaker executive.”

Yeah, I've seen the story

My point was that Adidas has never came out and said that. And the quote that Woj has in there seems more speculative than anything. I’m not denying that it has merit, but I think it’s being a bit overblown at this point

If Howard chooses not to come here, I doubt the shoe thing will be the biggest reason

Yeah, like I said.

I misread it, when I first read that article (Not on Yahoo, can’t remember where I read it), I thought they attributed the quote to an “Adidas Executive”, but obviously that says “sneaker executive.” So like I said, I misread it. Not questing that.

Though, I would not doubt the influence that could have over Howard’s decision. Fresh off the Pujols situation, as they say, it’s always about the money. And these shoe contracts are dwarfing even these guys’ playing contracts, and the player’s agent is also involved in the shoe contracts, so there’s some influence there. Paxson acknowledged as much recently.

It is safe to assume that they would prefer Dwight and DRose on different teams

But it would be stupid to publicly say that. Can you imagine the backlash of people flipping out over a corporation publicly trying to control the decisions of an athlete?

I have no idea what the actual point was here, I just wanted to lend credit to your point

I still think that sneaker executive was intentionally slandering Adidas.

And it worked.

I'll say this again:

The only people that stand to lose from Dwight going to Chicago are the people at Adidas. Personally, I don’t believe that having Dwight and DRose in Chicago will hurt Adidas, but lets say that it does and they told Dwight that they’re done with him if he signs with the Bulls.

Well…….Dwight Howard can tell them to kiss his ass and then go sign with Nike for big bucks. And for arguments sake, lets say that Dwight gets less money with Nike than he would with Adidas. Chicago’s a big ass town, to quote TMAC, and what he loses in shoe money he’ll make up elsewhere. Oh, and the rings will be sweet too!

If he doesn’t come to Chicago, it’s likely for reasons other than Adidas.

More on reading the Howard tea leaves...

Per Woj’s column:

Despite Howard’s preference to go to the Brooklyn-bound Nets to play with Deron Williams, those close to Howard still believe he’s fluctuating on his future and could be sold on different scenarios.

Dust off the jeans and update the powerpoints, Gar, it’s time to get back to work…

6 time NBA Champions, MJ played here, DRose is 23 and will not be leaving, best fans, shorter "sleeves" to the jerseys than in Orlando to help show off the guns...what's not to like?

pretty easy to make a power point for the Bulls, in my opinion.

does it matter that the nets really really suck, that williams hasnt been good so far this year, that

williams is 4 years older than rose, that hes often a fat-so?

This was my favorite part...
that hes often a fat-so
Let's start by beating Orlando handily tomorrow.
I love how those guys always leave a loophole in their stories so they can be always right
Don't forget the custom iPads!
And seriously, i would do Cousins for Rondo, immediattely

Followed by tyreke for a big

Whose team are you managing?
Sacto
Then that makes sense.

But Boston would be crazy to do that.

Why would Boston do that deal?

Rondo’s a hell of a player and Cousins is a 6-11 knucklehead who shoots percent from the field. Cousins, for all his hype and glory, isn’t really a starting caliber player right now(for a contender).

to not have to watch Jermaine Oneal

crawl across the court

I think this is an issue that begs for oversimplification

It was the Pistons on the second game of a back to back where your two best players played heavy minutes the night before. Not only was that a game to shorten Deng and Rose minutes, that was the game to let your bench win it even if it meant a loss. They have a horrendous stretch coming up and the least of which is a terrible Pistons team that was losing by double digits.

I like Thibs and i think he’s a good coach, but what’s going to determine if he’s a great coach is how he handles moments like last night. Bringing back in those starters and the 2:00 minute mark at the end of the game may have been the stupidest thing I’ve seen since… I don’t know…him bringing Deng in for 49 secs to end the half in the same game or bringing Rose back in AFTER he injured his elbow. Thibs was an idiot last night.

Let’s see if I can tie a couple of things together here.

World Population just ticked over 7 billion. Of all those 7 billion, only one is the reigning top basketball coach in the top league on the planet. So, in terms of basketball-related issues, this puts Thibs in a class of one…and assigns a weight of one seven billionth to your contrary opinion. That seems about right to me.

Now, now... shouldn't you be reviewing film, Thibs?
Ha

Obviously, I’m just kidding. However, if pressed, I will admit I do somewhat lean towards trusting Thibs’ evaluation in these matters.

See JBJ's post above
I'm with Basketball Smurf...Lame.
Everybody has great points regarding the minutes issue, but I'm not sure if heavier

minutes are correlated to more injuries. Sometimes fluke injuries happen right after the game starts or during it. There’s no way of really knowing when. Thibs should definitely be a little more careful with the minutes distribution, especially with Deng since Brewer could play a few minutes at the 3. Rose should of sat after he hit his FT’s.

There was no real reason for him to be out there with a couple of minutes to play. I think the bench could have held on to that lead. I mean just run out the clock, if you grab an offensive board that’s almost a minute that would’ve gone by. I think it was an 11 point lead with a couple of minutes left. It’s certainly possible they could have made a run and tied or taken the lead, maybe that’s why Thibs was hesitant to pull Rose. If it was a 20 point lead I’m pretty sure he would’ve taken out the starters. Except Deng. He HAS to play at least 40 min. Let’s just hope he cuts back a little.

Its not all about injuries, its about fatigue as well

Rose openly admitted to being fatigued at the end of last season.

True, but last season he also played in the FIBA tournament after training during the summer,

and during the season he had Bogans as a starting shooting guard. This season he should have less strenuous minutes if Rip stays healthy and productive. I think that might be a big difference between last year and this year.

Not to mention...

about 20 fewer games played in the NBA, counting exhibition season.

oh snap!

He got the picture comments on smash…he coming for the throne next! Lol

haha, just realized that

Good one too

Let me add to the case

by looking at Miami’s decision tonight to bench James and Wade despite both players’ ability to play (under pain, no doubt). The Heat play a potential playoff team in Atlanta but b/c James suffered an ankle injury the previous night (and b/c his buddy Wade is out too), they both sit. Miami’s coaching staff understands their top players’ desire and commitment and aren’t worried that sitting them sends a poor message. None of us can claim to know all Thibs motives in heavily playing Rose/Deng, but there is an obvious question here about the players wearing down in a shortened 66 game season. Jordan/Pippen never played in a season with a higher % of back-to-backs as this one. In fact, looking back on the Bulls’ intensity petering off in the Heat series and Rose getting hurt in the Pacer series, can we say regular season overwork contributed? Who knows.

The fact that there’s been a separate story on the blog today, with tens of comments, speaks to the concern of the fan base with this issue. And as representatives of that fan base, the media, in their chance to speak postgame with Coach Thibodeau, should have asked him the question everyone was thinking.

The fear of a Thibs tongue-lashing as a result of asking relevant questions is NOT a good enough reason to keep quiet.

Grammar douche says:

I think you meant “cue.” although you could make the argument…

that was bothering me all day, haha

since nobody else said anything I thought I was wrong and Alex was right.

i was going to make a snarky comment about this earlier

but since i already corrected your to/TOO error i didn’t want to seem like a total grammar douche.

(a few days ago)
you might say people were queued up to correct it

no…maybe not, that’s a bad pun. And right on cue.

There, now I’ve guaranteed I’ll be the only one laughing at this

It would;ve been better if you switched them around.
Was bothering me, too.

But I thought maybe Sonty was making some weird joke about Thib’s rotational tendencies, describing the criticism as “queue-scrutiny.” Maybe you should change it to “cue queue-scrutiny,” just to really drive home the point.

I automatically corrected it in my head

but now I can’t unsee it! AGH

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