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GIMME THAT... wait. nevermind.

I wish all our big men didn't have terrible hands
reminds me a lot like

this

lol

What’s Jay Sherman doing on the simpsons?

movie critic for a film festival

if I remember correctly

ha

I’ll have to watch that one.

They usually check the replay

But for some reason they didnt on that NOAH posession

Bulls should maybe run a layup drill a few times a week.

Because aside from Rose there is absolutely no one on this team who can convert close shots unless the stars align.

Seriously

Hamilton, Noah, Brewer all blowing lay-ups. Gibson was good in close though.

missed lay ups
JeffGurt Jeff Mangurten
Including blocks, the Bulls missed 12 layups in this game.
ECF Game #2 last year all over again!

Where we were what, 0-10 to start and 2-16 at one point, a ton of those in close or put-back misses. Lay-up and tip drills for everyone!

Maybe Rose vs Heat is like what Pistons was to MJ

a huge wall he has to climb over before dynasty

he will climb it and hes not alone

deng and rose are the combo that will take these fuckers down

except, rose aint no mj

and there is no scottie

Maybe not

but Deng’s a very solid all around player. And Joakim is better than anything the dynasty team ever had manning center.

Must admit I have the feeling we are the Pistons in that
So, we have back to back championships on the way?
hope so

it will only get harder

maybe more Kings-Lakers, and we're the Kings

man, i hope i’m wrong.

Maybe, if Scottie Pippen was 33 years old with a bad groin.
During the end of the second 3-peat, that's more like what he was
the only thing

that bothers me…..the rose missed free throw, haunting him since memphis days man……..

thing is he doesnt have the rep being a choker in the last min of the game

free throws liek this happens

he has become a great free throw shooter BECAUSE he hates that rep. It was a fluke caused by fatigue

Still have to hit them, but I’m completely confident he will hit them next time

Yeah, couldn't believe he missed both.

I thought at worst he’s split em.

yeah, but the kid was worn out

fuck JLIII!! damn it! why did we drop Mike James!

same here

i anticipated A miss, not misses

thought he would miss 1 too
me too

but its funny, when bron got fouled i thought he’d brick them like rose to.. eerie huh?

Nope. Thats more expected with James.
LeBron's FT% is only 67% this season in the clutch...

But it was 85% last season and 100% in last year’s playoffs.

Rose is 33% this season (pretty sure it’s like 1/3, though), 90% last season, and 87% in last year’s playoffs.

“More expected” is accurate, but not by much.

first one never had a chance

looked gassed from all the minutes.

Second one I thought was gonna fall but lipped off.

maybe

but i still dont buy that excuse. Him missing that final layup, that was him gassed, he couldnt get any elevation. but the ft…..thibs should make him run 5 miles then shoot freethrows, while he plays some ramstein blaring over the berto pa system

well to say Rose should go 14/14 from the line doesnt stick with his average

he was bound to miss one if not both.

he also had that 6-10 game last time.

I think his FT mechanics are a bit off.

law of averages could have caught up with him during the wizards game

didnt have to be that exact moment…..bahh….im not blaming it on rose, its just the only thing that bothers me cuz it makes it harder for me to call out lebron on his missed fts,

You're doing it wrong...

He isn’t less likely to hit one after hitting 12 straight than he was to hit each of those 12. DUCY?

its the law of averages...cant deny them
Shooting tired free throws leads to bad mechanics.
Just a fluke

It has no meaning except that as humans we like to find patterns even when they don’t exist. I hope Rose just forgets about it and moves on.

theres one pattern i believe in

lebron cant do shit when the pressure is on.

If you attribute some higher meaning to it then it's your problem.

James said it in the postgame interview. Give both of them the FTs again in the same situation they’ll knock them down.

Excactly. Except Lebron is naturally a worse FT shooter over all, hence it's more likely he would have still missed 1 of them.
once they pulled up the 12-12 graphic

he never had a chance

All thats going through my mind:

Can the playoffs just start already?

no, we need deng to healthy before the playoffs
Yea no crap

Its just the reg season feels completely irrelevant. I want us to kick these guys asses in the ECF.

that last minute took away from a great game.

no one came out looking good.

I want to see Thibs get more technicals, for protecting his players from the refs
Big ups to DRose for todays game.

Had to pretty much do everything for his team, with turf/sprained toe. If Rip made a couple more shots (4-16!!), we’d have a W. Defense locked down the Heat to the tune of 41 second half points. This rivalry is legit and the Bulls are definitely on the same level as the Heat. This is gonna be a helluva playoff series.

Oh…get well Lu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lu would have limited James to 26 points this game
i would settle on letting lebron have 32

and just chipping in 4 of his own, but seriously deng was missed so much

He spreads the floor in a big way and when teams

center in on Rose, he’s deadly when he sneaks down the lane and gets open for driving layups. Bulls would have won with a healthy Deng.

honestly

even half healthy deng would have been terrific help. Thibs is probably giving him a hug and crying into his shoulder right now “I missed you ::tear::”

I miss that giant wingspan.

Brewer is a tough guy but he can’t hang with elite forwards.

He's much better suited to D-up DWade.

Though it’s not like Rip needed help, he did a pretty good job on Wade.

Yeah I was really impressed with Rip's D, I thought beforehand that's where we would miss Bogans.

But Hamilton gives up no ground and doesn’t bite for the pump fakes. Aside from a few flops and nice passes Wade didn’t do shit.

Yeah, Wade's biggets impact on the game

were fast break dunks and lobs to Lebron, and neither of those are really Rips fault. Now, going 4-16, on the other hand……..

lol at van gundy saying the bulls miss bogans

i didn’t hear for what, 3 pt shooting?

That was exactly what he was saying...

It was within a point of the Bulls lacking 3-point shooting.

Man I think brewer shoots the corner three better than Bogans

BREWER.

Yeah

Hamilton’s d on Wade was definitely a positive surprise

I really Thought we were gonna come away with a great win
When Rose went to the line,

I thought the Bulls had it. No way the Heat would have come back from a deficit.

when he was driving i was thinking And 1

Wade fouled him before Haslem even pushed him out of bounds

Rest all the inured players tomorrow

No RIp, no Lu, no CJ. just let D Rose and everyone else handle it so the rest are ready for Philly

Rose isn't 100% either
we need the win tho

we have no cushion now

It's the Wizards...
they look like they actually want to play basketball with saunders gone
honeymoon period

remember when we fired skiles and had “he who shall not be named” yea…just think about that for a minute, and our bulls team really wasnt a bunch of nincompoops either

rest rose man

forget everyone else, just rest rose

Oddly, this game made me miss Brad Miller/Kurt Thomas

I just envisioned either of them laying out one of the Heatles and it made me smile everytime

Except they're both too slow to put a body on any of those guys.

Tough guy talk is bullshit. No one on Chicago is afraid of these guys. Wade can mean mug all he wants, bottom line is he hasn’t had a good game against Chicago in a year.

So I ask the question again

Why did we keep JL3 over Mike James? At least James know how to run the PnR.

Who gives a shit? If they're a factor against Miami in a playoff series Bulls have bigger issues.
Taj and Ronnie dont shrink away in big games

Boozer becomes Lucas IV in size

I am extremely optimistic of our chances to take them down in the playoffs

We need a bench player who can create their own shot. I think we will get one before the playoffs

Do we have any info on CJ's wrist?

Is it a serious injury and whatnot. Bad time to waive Mike James

Thibs said he might play tomorrow.
ok, good

hope its not another lingering injury

Off topic

But I didn’t realize how ugly Lebron has become. His interview close-ups made me shutter.

It's the hairline, isn't it?

His brow-line was also protruding quite far and appeared quite thick.

and his mouth

He looks like Will Smith when he had the allergic reaction in Hitch.

The only shitty thing is Rose missing those free throws

I hate that that will be part of the National narrative. He should’ve nailed at least one of those

He should have just shot them like floaters.
Well Miami dont look that good of a team.
Not at all. We didn't play that well, Deng was out and we still came within a possession or two.
G'dam it Boozer.

And god damn all the injuries we had. The Heat aren’t as good as say…ESPN makes them out to be. We didn’t play well, they were getting a lot of easy looks and were making them, we had turnover issues, Rose foul trouble, Deng not playing and WE STILL MADE IT CLOSE!!! It’s just one game, we’ll be back, no doubt. I just hope Deng’s injury isn’t bad. I thought Noah played well, Ronnie had some nice moments Rose was good, but wasn’t in great rhythm due to the fouls, but Boozer has to step up. He can’t have patches of 3 or 4 bad games with only one or half a good game in between, he has to play better defense and fight for the ball once in a while. Where is the passion???

boozer hit a couple huge shots at the end.
Yeah, true. I guess that got lost in my rant, lol.

Seriously though, we need him to be like that in most games and the WHOLE game, if possible.

yeah,

miami has the team defense to neutralize him, there’s no doubt.

agreed....but Boozer finally showed up at the end.
If he plays at least average in the first three quarters it's a different fourth.

He can’t be a zero for 75% of a game against Miami.

Boozer is a huge issue.

This team will have to go through Miami to win it all and Booz has proven that he can’t really perform against them. It’s very troublesome.

If Taj Gibson isn't afraid to throw down in the paint then Boozer needs to step the fuck up.

Rose can’t deliver perfect feeds to him 8-9 times a game, at some point he needs to be able to create his own offense.

I was impressed with the way Taj was taking it to the basket

he was fouled on one of those dunks

Yeah, I mean come on, I get it: people don't like Boozer. But he had huge hustle at the end when it mattered, hit a clutch shot

If you’re going to give anybody the Stinky Gym Sock Stinky Player Of The Game Award…that one has to go to Rip. Sorry, 4-16, 5 TOs, bad decisions…wasn’t his day.

also D'd the fuck out of Wade

Boozer’s d was not so hot.

Yeah, was about to say the same.

Rip couldn’t hit a shot, but he locked down Wade pretty good,

I'll give him that, for the first 3 3/4's of the game anyway.

But that is some terrible offensive production in a game where we needed to score. Totally stopped us cold too much there in the second half.

Doesn’t matter much to me either way, since both needed to be better, but I find it comical as to amount of Boozer hate today, when Rip was absolutely terrible in the second half.

boozer also missed rip

on the last play for the layup. yeah rip had missed some.. but it was a better decision than giving it back to rose there. rip had a wide open lane.

One big plus from this game...

Noah is BAck!!! (knock on wood) Lets hope its permanent!

Would anyone be surprised

If Rose was still in the gym in 2 hours shooting free throws?

they've gotta fly to D.C. don't they? Otherwise I'd agree
sitting on the plane with a crumbled up bit of paper then...

shooting free throws.

i'm more confident we will make the finals than ever before.

no deng, no NBA caliber backup for rose, boozer being shit (this might not change), and rip shooting horribly….and we lost in the last 20 seconds.

rose can learn from this…..he is still growing and this is going to help him (and us) in the long run

with an embarassing for the entire nba "inadvertant whistle"

i knew the game was fucked when that happened.

i think it actually sucks more

to lose a game in the last plays of the game, that you expected you’d prob lose… the guys fought harder than i anticipated which made this even more of a let down.

but yeah, i mean… i hope that our next matchup with them, we are at fuller strength than this.

It's one of those letdowns

that’s a lot easier to rebound off of because they still played a really good game without 2 of the main guys. If the Bulls got blown out the initial reaction would be of less appointment’s but it linger into the oncoming week.

you know i mgiht get ripped for saying this, but sometimes even the great teams need to lsoe games liek these

i wanted this win badly too, but when i think bout it, it actually might help rose and company in the longrun. They need to be reminded what it will take to beat the heat.

Well, TBH the 4 straight playoff loses last year were no different than tonight.
game 5 was a gigantic choke job by the bulls.
yes, but this is the season, you have time to work on the mistakes you made in this game

playoffs, there isnt much time to make MAJOR adjustments.

We were closer to full strength then though

Today, well let’s count
1) Rose’s toe
2) No Deng
3) No CJ
4) Hamilton playing through injury

Oh yeah, and Rip shooting 4-16 in 36 minutes? Not gonna cut it.
and 5 turnovers. He looked pretty bad.
I think he had pressure going into the game.

I mean, yes he has LOADS of experience in big games, big matchups, but I think when he played on the Pistons, everyone looked at them as the sleepers or underdog teams, and now that he is with us, and everyone looks at us as one of the title contenders, he might have gotten one too many pregame jitters. I don’t know, maybe I am talking through my ass, but that migh be the case.

But his shooting so far this season

makes me think it’s an aberration. I think he’ll be fine

except hes 13/44 (30%) on the season against above average defenses.
When you're talking about a 3-game sample size, I think the term "aberration" definitely applies.
I'm telling you no more humblebot
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
DRose also dropped a Kobe-like F-bomb about the missed FTs. #Bulls
Anger displayed has nothing to do with humility.
My thoughts on the game which I posted in the last thread

1) Rose can’t play the way he does for an entire 45 minutes, it’s just too much. He has to exert so much effort due to his size. Not saying he has to change, but with CJ playing, it’s completely different.
2) Korver and Boozer were worthless, the latter even worse than the former. Korver just gets exploited so badly. He is opposing DWade or LBJ and it never works well. Boozer just fucking sucks.
3) I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If the game vs. the Heat is close in the 4th quarter, the Refs will do everything in their power to screw us. "Inadvertent whistle" my ass…
4) With Deng and CJ, it’s a completely different game. Deng is the cornerstone to our defense. His presence allows Ronnie to play with the bench mob. Miami would have been lucky to score 90 tonight with him playing.

Not worried. I think Boozer’s LuHawk kids would play better than him though.

again, boozer hit two clutch shots at the end.
After being a ghost for the first 44 minutes.

Part of being a big man is imposing your will even when you arent producing. You at least turn heads. Boozer was an afterthought, missing wide open looks.

yeah, it's strange, he's started to back down some guys.

either he’s forgetting to try, or the bulls are utilizing him correctly.

Regarding the Inadvertent Whistle

I think that actually helped the Bulls, as the ball went straight to Bosh, whom we would have had to foul. The jump ball at least gave the Bulls the chance to get ball back without fouling (even if the tip was illegally stolen)

Taj stopped going for the ball once the whistle blew, plus it seemed to me like the Ref was anticipating a foul...and we know which way that would have gone..
i'm still not convinced wade didn't touch the ball out of bounds.
hard to tell

his foot was in bounds when they zoomed in on it, but i don’t know whether he then stepped out before letting go

yeah, that's where it's hard to tell.

but yeah, the whistle screwed everything up. guys stopped playing, who knows what would’ve happened.

why in the fuck was Gibson jumping against LJ there anyway?

James was not near the play.

on some garbage jump ball for no reason,

the teams pick who they want.

its not really garbage

there was no decisive ruling on the court, so since the altercation is not about players but more about fairness, the ruling is each team can have one person who was on the court at the time of the incident do the jump ball. I think taj could have won it (maybe) and i really didnt get a look to see if the ball was really thrown with bias or not…and it sucks that they didnt bother showing it again either….

i meant what led up the the jump ball was garbage.

and the tip was crap, it totally leaned toward lebron.

Boozer + Asik

Should play together on the 2nd squad.

when they were going small

We could have done a rose-Cj-Hamilton-Deng-Noah and torched them. Damn it injuries suck, I’m super confident about our team though.

You can tell the heat gave it their all and they needed refs, a tired rose, and no Luol to sneak away with a win. Go Bulls!

I was kinda hoping for some craziness

Like busting out a zone against Miami’s small unit. With Asik and Noah on the blocks and Gibson at the free throw line. Sure, the offense would have been clogged, but Miami would have trouble rebounding and getting inside.

freakin P.I,M

calling us out on us tlaking about not having deng, so they suggest, “well we didnt have wade then….” cuz wade played a bad game…..right……in that case, we didnt have RIP either cuz he had a bad game, and we didnt have booz…..fuck never mind, thats probably as good as boozer gets in this series….

wait, he wasnt that bad the last heat and bulsl series

i remember he was avg around 15 ppg, no?

Rose missed 2 free throws, he never misses free throws.

Mulligan! Bulls obviously win!

kirk hinrich would have hit one of those fts

i swear

seems like we played poorly without two important players and we barely lost

not realy worried about this team. Though boozer is pissing me off, might as well use him off the bench.

im Cool,But im still pissed about the refs lack of reviewing the last 2 posessions.
Is Rodman available? We could use someone to pump us up and crash the boards!!
Dwyane didn't play like shit

WE made him play like shit…That’s a big difference

For some reason he has struggled vs chicago almost everytime for his career

always hit the clutch shots though

Some reason

is called Hinrich, Bogans, Hamilton and Brewer

Well, he did have 33 in that game last year when he and Rose were dueling with back and forth threes, I believe that was the game Kyle won for us

But yeah…he’s been pretty mediocre against us.

He was bailed out by the refs on a couple plays, again.
we really need Rip and Deng

you need to space the floor and hit jumpshots vs Miami. One perimeter player that can’t hit the open J, they will trap you like hell. Rip can run around all he want but with them ignoring Brewer in the perimeter, he’ll get trapped all the time

Yeah

Having Korver as our only reliable 3 point shooter is tough considering our best player relies on so many drives to the basket.

Korver did OK

the problem is he can only play when either lebron or wade is on the bench

For a good defensive team, we gave up a lot of layups and dunks.

Yeah, yeah, I know the Heat in general produce a lot of layups, dunks and alleys, but tonight they went to the line 40 TIMES!!!

Well, it's very simple: Drive, run into defender, force them to make contact, put up shot, get to line

It should be drilled into the Bulls’ heads that if you don’t have a play on the ball, you are going to need to be as straight as possible, and try to force them to alter their shot, instead of hacking. I’d can live with Bron and Wade putting up wild runners and bank shots of glass because I’ve seen them miss those, obviously no wide open lanes, but as inconsistent as they are on the line sometimes, you give them 40 free shots at the basket and even a blind squirrel will find a nut now and again.

Of course it doesn’t help with the amount of touch calls they get.

Should Taj start instead of Boozer?
here we go again!

callin dakoose and dils!

Well, I guess that takes care of that! LOL
no but he deserves more minutes

boozer = bogans..both got too much limitations

If Deng is healthy, I say yes.

More scoring to the second squad.

More minutes for Taj, who when you factor in defense, is the more productive player.

Of course he should but It doesn't really matter because he still has to play at some point

Hell even I’m exhausted with this Boozer crap. I don’t need any more discussion to prove the point that we have a 80 million dollar player that can’t be effective against the one team stopping us from a title. It’s the silliest bullshit I’ve ever see. Any conversation about what he does well against bad teams or a few rare timely shots he hits at the end of games is really moot. He doesn’t perform when needed most. Honestly, we’d be better off with Kurt Thomas on this team than Carlos Boozer.

The thing with only two out of the three Heat players playing well is not a mystery

These are high usage guys that need the ball in their hands to be effective. it’s why I still think the Heat are worse with Wade. Wade might help them on the break or whatever, but I feel a lot safer having him on the floor as a release valve for lebron than a guy that can catch and shoot

the combination of Wade and Lebron

is what makes them a great transition team and great defensive team, especially on the perimeter. Add in Wade’s ability to get to the foul line and play in the 4th and you now are talking about an all time great team.

not that I think they are an all time great team

but the 2 together is what makes them a match up nightmare

The problem is, with wade on the floor

he gets a ton of calls, causing foul trouble on guys like Noah. He can also hit the big shot

wade scares me

because he always seems to make the best basketball play, he always gets that extra gear to make a move for a loose ball, a steal, or just draw a foul…..honest to god, i dont care what the numbers say for him or lebron, its wade that scares the hell out of me.

That's exactly it

And the Heat just flop so well if they know they don’t have a shot because they know they’ll get a call. Most of the time, I think its anticipation calls. That’s why I get so worried when we try guarding Wade or Lebron on a fast break because all you have to do is touch them and they get an automatic foul.

This is an issue solely with Chicago because they have the personnel to render one of them irrelevant.

It’s not an issue against 29 other teams.

Check their record with and without him this year
And what's Chicago's record and ORtg without Rose this year?
i agree with you jbj

the Heat when they go Chalmers, Miller, James, Bosh, Haslem. scares me more than when Wade is on the floor. He does however always seem to make a big 4th quarter play but that’s just his makeup as an x champion.

Without Wade they're just a regular, boring halfcourt team with a bunch of average role players who get hot and cold.
I know ripping Lebron is the thing to do, but publically he's always very complimentary of Rose, which is a very stand-up move:
ESPNChrisPalmer chris palmer
LeBron: “Derrick Rose can go around anybody in this league, anybody in this world.”
maybe it's just my bias

but anything that comes out of him seems completely phony.

idk, I dislike him for all his prancing and bullshit, but I think he's very respectful in that regard

I think he’s genuilne

What I really find ironic

Is ever since the decision on a jump ball on that play of the phantom whistle….it has yet to be brought up again. Had that call been against the Heat’s favor, that would be the #1 topic on ESPN tomorrow.

When a mans right, he's right.
broken clock is twice

three times a day

mindfuck statement
know what else is irritating?

remember when derrick hit that reverse in the 1st qtr and got hit in the head? no call. then fucking norris cole gets a touch foul on a drive. that’s just fucked.

a general complaint i have

whats with the refs constantly sand bagging asik…..that travel was a travel-not

It's because he comes from the sand
that

was horseshit as well

No worries guys, we'll win the next game vs the Heat.

I think with our full and healthy squad we can easily beat their full and healthy squad. We know what’s like to play them during the regular season and the playoffs, and I am sure Thibodeau will get the ready next time. Wizards are next=easy win.

Rip second half

0 points, 5 turnovers…

smh

real talk

should we try and go for jr smith when he’s eligible? not to replace rip but for a better option off the bench

to be fair

dude has been getting inconsistent play time with his groin injuries and what not. I mean he hasnt practiced, got on a plane, was a game time decision and played…..thats just hard to do. He missed a shit load of shots he never normally would have….namely, the damn free throws, hes one of the best there is, and you only get better the longer you are in the league…but he missed some himself

yeah Rip was a gametime decision

he manned up and played, his shot wasn’t dropping but he didn’t let it effect his defense. I’m proud of him and i can confidently say that without him we would have done much worse.

one thing i liked was that he was aggressive

plus if brewer was ready for that pass at the 3 pt line (which was a bad pass but still catchable) we could have had the game in the bag

without that 2nd shot creator, it will be tough to beat miami

after the initial trap, we don’t have a 2nd guy that can attack the basket. Rip is nice on pindowns, hitting the mid J, passing. But he is not an iso guy. Unless Brewer, Boozer hits their jumpshots, it will be a grind it out game.

The closest thing I saw was Taj putting it on the floor and attacking the rim

ur forgetting how valuable deng is..

him and rip will force miami to play man to man with limited double team

yeah I mentioned earlier during the game

Rip is struggling because they are ignoring Brewer in the perimeter and trapping Drose and Rip. Pretty much how they ignored bogans and trapped Deng and Drose.

In order to beat them in a 7 game series, Deng needs to hit the corner 3, Boozer needs to hit that jumpshot to open up for Drose and Rip

From K.C.
As far as DRose self-flagellation speeches, that was an A plus. “I guarantee you those shots are going down next time.” #Bulls
that's good to know!
not really a fan of making guarantees
yeah but this isnt a "i guarantee we win" one; he's promising to do what he expects to do.

I like it

Hey, maybe Dwight is ready to add another team to his list
KCJHoop
Dwight Howard opens up to the Trib’s @vxmcclure23: ``If I could play with Derrick right now and God wanted that to happen, it will happen.’’
HOLD IT

I’ll just make a new thread. God damn you all, and Dwight Howard most.

oh boy

shits gonna get hot in their.

stop teasing and force Orl to trade you for Booz lol
Ha!

I was just about to post this too. Let Let BlogaDwight began

CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!
Boozer kids cheering Lets go heat

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Brad ass Miller sighting

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