Thank god the Bulls won’t have to take them on in the 1st round again this year lol. Unless one of these teams ends up having a really bad final 46 games, but I’m gonna consider that unlikely.
Thank god the Bulls won’t have to take them on in the 1st round again this year lol. Unless one of these teams ends up having a really bad final 46 games, but I’m gonna consider that unlikely.
we can ask for scal to keep his ass on the bench. i mean WTF was he doing out there anyway. and why take a 3 with over 40 seconds left??? you’re looking for a 2.
without deng AND taj. oh well, it happens. we’ve been playing shit teams and blowing clubs out (with rose) for quite some time now. better not happen again.
they have joined the Heat, Lakers, Knicks, Celtics and Pistons as hated teams for me. The playoffs made me consider it. This clinched it for me. The fact that there fans were complaining on Indy Cornrows is horseshit
This is a perfect example of one of those games where we lose some interest/concentration.
Sometimes, teams as good as we are now, just sort of expect the lesser opponents to kneel before you and concede the game, but the Pacers never did that, they kept fighting and the Bulls lost the momentum they had (although it did take a while) in 3rd and 4th. It’s a bad loss, but there were still some positives we can take from this. The biggest one for me is Ronnie Brewer stepping it up with 20pts.
they are right up there in the east. those idiots worry me all the time and without arguably our two most physical dudes in taj and deng they bullied their way into a win.
Ok, so a tad confused about why Thibs put Scal in during the last possessions.
Was it to put some size on West? Cuz then he was a waste on that last offensive possession. I’m guessing Thibs had no TOs left, else he would stick KK in there to play offense, right?
Also, WTF playing Butler in the first quarter after he gets a string of DNPs.
Thibs, you need to go watch tape on this game, and make sure you’re looking closely at the coaching decisions. Then you might want to break this game’s tape.
Also, how big is that goddamn Rose 3pt at the end of the first Q now? And the Rip missed Tech FT?
Play like this and we won’t have to worry about beating the Heat (who barely scraped by DET tonight thanks to Brandon Knights Asik like FT shooting in the 4th Q)
don’t forget we’re still number one
indiana barely beat us with our MVP still hurt and one started and a very important role player off the bench.
calls didn’t go our ways but that can be said for both teams.
so not everyone get in a tizzy about this loss.
Interesting game, some good things, a lot of not so good things, but it’s just one game, and it’s a good way to learn for the upcoming games. Not sure either why Scal was put in, and not sure why Derrick wasn’t as aggressive down the stretch, but things like this do happen, and we do still have the best record in the league. My biggest concern is having everybody healthy or healthy enough to where they can make a difference. We don’t have that, yet, so it will take some time, but hopefully not too much time. Peace out brotha’s and good night. Don’t drink it away!!
rest Rose like a month, it sounds awful but he just doesn’t have the same vertical anymore. If he was healthy he would have taken over that 4th quarter like a star player should.
Sitting Rose for 1 month wouldn’t help that much. The only way for him to get 100% would be to not walk for awhile. To get around 90% he would have to probably wear a boot for a long time.
He doesn’t look like himself, and that has to be because the toe. He was looking for jumpers, didn’t push the ball at all. It tells you how good he is that he was still able to have a pretty good night, but that was not Derrick Rose
Rose should not have passed that last one. Might have missed, but prolly would have gotten fouled if not. But, why was scal out there? That was dumb.
But rip was 6-20. Ouch. Bulls could not hit a 15 for jumper ( aside from rose and brewer) and they still should have won. That missed foul when rose got clotheslined was just awful. Feel bad, but not concerned just yet.
the pacers are not a top/elite team in the east and we didnt need deng or taj to win this game. it would of hurt to have taj though because our rebounding could of been better but the pacers were getting a lot of lucky losse balls.
Where the MVP getting mugged is apparently ok happens….I hate indy as much as the detroit lions, both are exactly the same punkass teams from player to coach…
I dont understand how you cant be physical with the big guys(they called some soft ass fouls for hibbert,hansborough and west) but let a point guard get mugged repeatedly.
It's amazing how much that pacer team is like the detroit lions
Both teams get preseason hype of improving, both seem likeable in the beginning (well detroit at 1st did) because they sucked for a while and underdog shit…Both became dirty ass bitch teams and are hated. Both teams have douchebag players with douchebag coaches advocating dirty play and acting like they won a title in the regular season. Both teams get away with it. Difference is Indy dont have that poster boy who is dirty like Detroit does with Suh….Seriously they are damn near alike
only watched the last 1:33. Is there a reason we put Scal in there?? I mean, we actually needed a WIN. Did I miss the announcers saying that Scal was the most clutch player in the world or something??
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
When @csnbullsinsider asked DRose most disappointing part of loss, DRose took 12 seconds (12 seconds!) to compose himself to answer. #Bulls
The thing that makes it hurt a bit more is that it was the Pacers, at home. And the fact that the schedule gets very tough now, and a few East teams lost today. We had a chance to separate ourselves a bit.
And if the Bulls sleep on Milwaukee, they’re gonna be in a similar situation Friday. Bucks are playing well right now
bulls have proven so far and last season that they bounce back very well (save the ecf).
after the 9 game trip though, the schedule is pretty favorable. bulls deserve it after playing the most games in the league and having a ton of road games already.
but yeah i mean it is def annoying that we lost to the pacers at home, but it’s pretty pathetic they acted like they just won the championship with that.
McGrawDHBulls Mike McGraw
Rose on loss to Pacers: “I’ll never forget how they celebrated just from winning this game. I can’t wait to play them again.”
Well, if it hurts that much to see them celebrate a victory, you should try doing something about it.
Attack the hoop more, don’t settle for J’s and 3’s and try not passing to a bum for the game winning shot.
Rose did not have a bad game, but he came out like gangbusters and followed up a stellar first quarter with some very mediocre basketball. His team needed the MVP edition of DRose tonight.
What I want to see from Rose is straight domination.
More attacking and less threes with consistent production throughout the game. He’s only had a handful of games in his career where he feasted for 4 full quarters. Thats what I wanna see from Derrick soon, some legit domination.
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
RT @SpearsNBAYahoo: Hornets didnt reach terms with Eric Gordon on a contract extension and he will be a RFA this summer, NBA sources say.
Well 3-4 weeks is the average time it usually takes to heal a bruised knee anyways
I really question the Hornets training staff though since I’m wondering what gave them the idea that they could bring Gordon back the first time. He obviously re-aggravated it, but how quickly he did leaves me wondering what they hell is going on with the training staff over there. He came back after 1 week when he should have been out 3 from the start.
But I’ll take that guy shooting a wide open trey in any situation. Perfect play by Rose, nobody makes shots every time but an open Scal is pretty close. Guy is not good at basketball but hating on that play by Rose is wrong.
Lets all admit it: Scalibrine is not a good basketball player. Moreso, he’s a bad player who can’t get burn unless his team gets ravaged by injuries. Rose made a bad decision in passing to a guy like Scal; he’s been talking about his higher basketball IQ but there’s nothing intelligent about passing to Scal for a game winning shot. Stacey says it all the time, KYP, know your personel. Scal should not have been out there, but there’s still no excuse for passing to Scal.
because I’m of the opinion that there are some guys who you simply don’t pass to in crunch time. Taj and Noah are guys you don’t give the last shot to, same goes for Scal and Omer. Last shots are reserved for shot-makers, not clowns off the bench.
Can someone please remind those guys that it was a 5 game series? Please.
McGrawDHBulls Mike McGraw
Indy’s Frank Vogel: "The guys are just thrilled to get the win here. They were crushed that we didn’t beat them last year in the playoffs."
Vogel will be stuck on that team, They are the ATL hawks midwest, being a good team but will never win one. But hey! They’re happy about a regular season game against a team losing their 2nd best player and Taj and barely beaten them due to us sucking and the refs being horrible to do it…In that case congrats to them…
It’s not like the Bulls are significantly worse in any one area, but Deng has a positive impact on just about every facet of the game, which makes it a lot harder for the Bulls to win. I still think we can be a great team without him, but everybody else needs to step up to cover for his absence.
Also spacing. Having three guys out there who aren’t long-range threats (Brewer, Boozer, Noah) made it very hard to get things going offensively. Brewer got his, but he made things a lot more difficult his teammates, which is why he had only a +0, despite having a superb statline. I think Korver should’ve gotten more run.
a part of me is sort of glad the heat are getting these close games
im so hoping that regardless of the record they continue going into these grindy games and over time situations. Basically a flip flop of what happened last season. THe bulls grinded out wins to the best record in the league, but ended up with tired legs by the playoffs, the heat crushed opponents in their wins, and were fairly fresh, and ended up at full power by the 3rd round against us. Im hoping the heat have some tired legs, although with the way thibs is pushing guys, we might have tired legs regardless
He isn’t 100%. He drove hard to the basket with the intention of drawing contact only twice tonight. He’s hurt. Now, that really isn’t THAT big of a problem except that his damn toe will never heal. He shot a lot of jumpers (hit a lot of them as well) but he is not the same “scare teams shitless” player unless he is driving to the paint.
As for the Pacers, people are saying to give them credit. I’ll give them credit when they beat us in a game where we aren’t forced to play Brian Scalabrine. We had 8 bench points…these injuries are depleting our bench depth and forcing Thibs to put different players on the court together. It may help in the long run, but teams will not be facing us anywhere near full strength for a while.
Boozer should be fucking embarassed. For the last 2 minutes of the game, he got pulled for BRIAN SCALABRINE. Are you kidding me, Boozer? Do I have to drive up to Chicago and light a fire under your ass? It’s pathetic!
I didn’t get to watch the game, but still laugh at going through the game thread and seeing people complaining about the refs like they do after every game (loss).
How did this happen when we were up by TEN at halftime?
Rose's toe caused him to not be able to take over late, also Scalabrine was in late, also the Bulls didnt shoot many threes late, also the Pacers were awesome at jumpers, also Hibbert tended to dunk
There are major, major, big time issues that were exposed tonight
-The Bulls are 3-4 against good teams, and three of those losses were blowouts
-Thibs is a better defensive mind, but I’d say Vogel at least equals him as a coach
-I don’t care how Boozer/Noah/Asik/Butler/Gibson (when he’s playing) do during a game. Unless all five guys are hurt, no way in hell Scal should be in the game at crunch time over any of them. I don’t care if they are a combined 0-47 with 0 rebounds, they all play over Scal in crunch time.
-We should NEVER lose a close game, especially at home, if Derrick Rose is playing. Tonight we did, and that shows how significant that this toe injury is. I’d say this game shows that it’s EXTREMELY unlikely we beat Miami on Sunday or Miami in a 7 game series with Rose’s toe the way it is. He has to be able to take over for us to win this type of game, especially with no Deng or a shell-of-himself Deng. If Rose couldn’t win us this game tonight, there are serious, serious issues going forward.
-It’s disturbing that the Bulls are STILL getting bit in the ass by teams that should not be as good as them, but are also not afraid of them. The Bulls are not good enough (especially with no Deng) to take other teams lightly. Even Miami gets bit doing that sometimes. Last year against the Pacers and Hawks in the playoffs, and this year against Atlanta, Pacers, and Grizzlies the Bulls seemed to think they “should” win, and then lost because these other good young teams arent afraid of them. The Bulls are taking teams lightly, and they have played VERY poorly against good opponents this season.
Would be nice if the fans kept it slightly classier...
2ndHalfAdjustments - January 25, 2012
Classy?!
There is no classy in game threads!
windycitywarrior - January 25, 2012
I meant at the UC, lol.
It’s just me, but I think the chants of ‘bullshit’ and ‘Detroit sucks!’ are lame. There have to be far more creative ways to insult someone/city.
2ndHalfAdjustments - January 25, 2012
Well
The refs were Bullshit and Detroit actually does suck…
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
this
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
T Moore for prez !
dsenchi - January 25, 2012
Good overrule by the refs! Thank God!
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
OUT OF BOUNDS!
windycitywarrior - January 25, 2012
I still feel pretty good about this ending..
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
shit
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
Damn it Rip.
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
Scalabrine to check int?!? WTF
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
im dying over here...
Stay Chisel - January 25, 2012
COME ON BULLS!!
sue369 - January 25, 2012
shit
sue369 - January 25, 2012
suck
SAVE FERRIS - January 25, 2012
why the fuck would rose throw the ball to Scal?
occubull - January 25, 2012
I guess that's why Thibs put hin in there, sort of a decoy..
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
we had our chances this game
cant win em all
Stay Chisel - January 25, 2012
Not over yet...
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
LOL. NOW it's over.
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
Jesus fucking Christ. Can you say...FACEPALM???
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
was hoping scal hit that for the haters
Bet he make that I’m the playoffs #mambafever
Belize - January 25, 2012 via mobile
ugh
sue369 - January 25, 2012
Damn good game, Bulls fans.
Sucks that we don’t get to play again for a while. Damn you guys are good. Not interested in playing you when you have Deng back.
Jmahoney - January 25, 2012
Pacers are dang good this year.
Thank god the Bulls won’t have to take them on in the 1st round again this year lol. Unless one of these teams ends up having a really bad final 46 games, but I’m gonna consider that unlikely.
wrigleyrocker12 - January 25, 2012
bottom line....with or without Deng
we aren’t much better than the Pacers.
stanchar - January 25, 2012
yes we are.
with deng and gibson, we would beat them by a good margin.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
You're drunk. lol
Jmahoney - January 25, 2012
no, i dont drink
first of all, i watched this game and we should have won this one. Playing scals does not help matters.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Pacers are dang good this year.
Thank god the Bulls won’t have to take them on in the 1st round again this year lol. Unless one of these teams ends up having a really bad final 46 games, but I’m gonna consider that unlikely.
wrigleyrocker12 - January 25, 2012
Double reply?
Odd. It was meant for the post above.
wrigleyrocker12 - January 25, 2012
not even close
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
Who the fuck rec this
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
- 1
dsenchi - January 25, 2012
fuck this, im not conceding this win to the piece of shit hick pacers
u can thank those shithead refs.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
fuck vogel
His smirk gives me indegestion
Belize - January 25, 2012 via mobile
Still can't believe Rose kicked to Scal in that situation. Utter shock. Has he even hit a jump shot this season?
rinconen - January 25, 2012
lol this
occubull - January 25, 2012
Scal gave it his best. That's all you can ask for.
MillerTime31 - January 25, 2012
no
we can ask for scal to keep his ass on the bench. i mean WTF was he doing out there anyway. and why take a 3 with over 40 seconds left??? you’re looking for a 2.
anorexorcist - January 25, 2012
I'm ok with throwing Scal out there, just not in a game winning situation. Pure retardedness.
rinconen - January 25, 2012
I think some of us here need to take a deep breath and...
A. Give the Pacers some credit and
B. Take a deep breath and realize that nothing fell the Bulls way tonight.
wrigleyrocker12 - January 25, 2012
nah dude, wont give credit to guys who hack like crazy and the refs dont call those plays
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
I'm really getting sick of clothelines on Rose still not getting called. What exactly does an MVP have to do to get respect?
rinconen - January 25, 2012
Step away from the computer dude...
You know, the Bulls have lost for reasons other than the refs before?
wrigleyrocker12 - January 25, 2012
im jus pissed, ill get over it.
but i cant ignore the shitty refs poor officiating.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
i fully expected to lose this one
without deng AND taj. oh well, it happens. we’ve been playing shit teams and blowing clubs out (with rose) for quite some time now. better not happen again.
anorexorcist - January 25, 2012
Fully expected? Before the game or when Indiana came back to make it close?
We looked good (not spectacular) in the 1st half. You must be Karnac.
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
Nope fuck the Pacers
they have joined the Heat, Lakers, Knicks, Celtics and Pistons as hated teams for me. The playoffs made me consider it. This clinched it for me. The fact that there fans were complaining on Indy Cornrows is horseshit
dsenchi - January 25, 2012
This is a perfect example of one of those games where we lose some interest/concentration.
Sometimes, teams as good as we are now, just sort of expect the lesser opponents to kneel before you and concede the game, but the Pacers never did that, they kept fighting and the Bulls lost the momentum they had (although it did take a while) in 3rd and 4th. It’s a bad loss, but there were still some positives we can take from this. The biggest one for me is Ronnie Brewer stepping it up with 20pts.
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
the pacers are not a "lesser opponent"
they are right up there in the east. those idiots worry me all the time and without arguably our two most physical dudes in taj and deng they bullied their way into a win.
anorexorcist - January 25, 2012
Deng and Taj are physical? Good defenders, but not physical. Being physical is not the issue.
Duck99 - January 25, 2012
Well, by 'lesser opponent' it did kind of sound like I called them bad, didn't I? LOL
They aren’t bad, that’s for sure, but the Bulls are still a much better overall team. I guess this was/will be a good wake up call.
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
Bump in the road - this is a weird year. Heat are the most talented team and they've struggled again.
Duck99 - January 25, 2012
I need to take a deep breath...and remember we still have the best record in the East. Phew.
rinconen - January 25, 2012
This game reminded me a lot of the Vinny 'era' of 2 years ago.
Horrible execution and letting our guard down, whilst having bad luck along the way (refs).
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
Ok, so a tad confused about why Thibs put Scal in during the last possessions.
Was it to put some size on West? Cuz then he was a waste on that last offensive possession. I’m guessing Thibs had no TOs left, else he would stick KK in there to play offense, right?
Also, WTF playing Butler in the first quarter after he gets a string of DNPs.
Thibs, you need to go watch tape on this game, and make sure you’re looking closely at the coaching decisions. Then you might want to break this game’s tape.
Also, how big is that goddamn Rose 3pt at the end of the first Q now? And the Rip missed Tech FT?
Play like this and we won’t have to worry about beating the Heat (who barely scraped by DET tonight thanks to Brandon Knights Asik like FT shooting in the 4th Q)
Fukudometer - January 25, 2012
they had no timeouts
Osaka - January 25, 2012
shit like this happens.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
but its good to see the cavs beating the knicks :)
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Also, Tyrus Thomas had 9 blocks tonight
NINE!
Fukudometer - January 25, 2012
And the Bobcats still lost by 16
To the Wizards.
jrobulls - January 25, 2012
Pacers rebounded big tonight... was the difference...
inkybreath - January 25, 2012
need gibson back
cant have fuckin scal backing up booz
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
you win some, you lose some.
don’t forget we’re still number one
indiana barely beat us with our MVP still hurt and one started and a very important role player off the bench.
calls didn’t go our ways but that can be said for both teams.
so not everyone get in a tizzy about this loss.
panduh - January 25, 2012
I'm sick of this "our team is hurt" excuse
Season’s 1/3 over and THEY’RE ALL HURT. I’m guessing this is the norm the rest of the way.
Fukudometer - January 25, 2012
playing hurt, I mean
Fukudometer - January 25, 2012
Bulls were badly outworked in the frontcourt, made same poor decisions on the floor, and just plain missed shots
The refs were terrible but most of the fault here lies on the Bulls. The pacers outhustled them.
Derrick did not look like he has a lot of mobility tonight aside from a few good drives.
windycitywarrior - January 25, 2012
Well, alright guys, I am outta here.
Interesting game, some good things, a lot of not so good things, but it’s just one game, and it’s a good way to learn for the upcoming games. Not sure either why Scal was put in, and not sure why Derrick wasn’t as aggressive down the stretch, but things like this do happen, and we do still have the best record in the league. My biggest concern is having everybody healthy or healthy enough to where they can make a difference. We don’t have that, yet, so it will take some time, but hopefully not too much time. Peace out brotha’s and good night. Don’t drink it away!!
BullsFan22 - January 25, 2012
Win 4, lose 1, I can deal with that.
Getting spoiled though. Those rare loses really hurt.
berzerkulous - January 25, 2012
Why did the one have to be the Pacers.
cowraiser - January 25, 2012
pretty bad officiating didn't help...
3ptace - January 25, 2012
Fucking atrocious officiating!
cowraiser - January 25, 2012
still should protect home court....
…..Deng would’ve made a difference
3ptace - January 25, 2012
hes coming back next tues...
its fine, the bulsl will rebound back from this. They usually need a slap on the face.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
I think the officiating evened out and was bad for both teams
However, even if it’s evenly bad, it still affects both teams and makes luck become a much larger part of the game. Don’t want to see that.
berzerkulous - January 25, 2012
I thought it was one-sided.
Touch fouls against us, while Rose/Noah/Booz were hacked all night with no calls
cowraiser - January 25, 2012
this
MCREW - January 25, 2012
what I saw too....
….If you would’ve said we’d be 16-4 after 20 games before the season started I’d be happy , and still feel that way.
3ptace - January 25, 2012
I like to give the benefit of the doubt
Our perceptions are often out of line with reality, and where they are off, it’s reality that is always correct.
berzerkulous - January 25, 2012
nah dude, if you know bball, those were def fouls
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
idk what game u were watching, but the pacers were hacking whenever rose drove in and whenever they crashed for the boards.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
I don't blame Thibs for having Scal on the floor, but I do blame him for not putting in Korver.
Did the Paces series not say anything?
cowraiser - January 25, 2012
how could he put in Korver?
No timeouts after the rebound. Scal shouldn’t have been in at all. It was like playing 4 on 5 going for the tie.
Fukudometer - January 25, 2012
We had no timeouts? Damn
cowraiser - January 25, 2012
Scal was in for the D
cowraiser - January 25, 2012
after thibs sub him out the camera showed booz and he looked kinda pissed
I bet he was thinking, I can understand you subbing me out for Taj, but damn! you subbing me out for scal too, wtf.
Slick Ric - January 25, 2012
Hoping to see more of this next time
Osaka - January 25, 2012
too bad that pic is from last year
:(
anorexorcist - January 25, 2012
...
Fukudometer - January 25, 2012
or maybe this
Osaka - January 25, 2012
as long as they dont lose to the bucks on friday or something
im OK w/an occasional egg like this.
anorexorcist - January 25, 2012
no Bogut for Friday
heard he got a bad sprain tonight
Fukudometer - January 25, 2012
and gibson might be back by then
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
REST ROSE... REST NOAH
This is ridiculous, meanwhile Dwayne Wade is resting up getting ready to kick our asses in the ECF
D-Cas - January 25, 2012
wtf are you talking bout? Wade injury was alot more serious than Rose and Noah
Noah had a minor sprained ankle and did well today and Rose may have been conservative, but at this point the bulls need him.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
I'd say rest Rose too
he just seems off and we’re better off as the 3rd seed or something with Rose healthy than the 1st seed with Rose not healthy
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
cant do it with the big road trip coming up, but i would just him rest him against the bucks
after that, it gets tough
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
His shot was off, that happens sometimes. Resting him wouldn't have mattered.
I thought he moved very well over all, especially on defense.
berzerkulous - January 25, 2012
Its not something that's gonna go away overnight you know
He rested for 6 days and it barely improved. If you want to rest Rose till his injury gets better than I guess we’ll see Rose in July.
Saukrates - January 25, 2012
exactly
rest Rose like a month, it sounds awful but he just doesn’t have the same vertical anymore. If he was healthy he would have taken over that 4th quarter like a star player should.
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
I think you missed my point
Saukrates - January 25, 2012
its one game dude, chill
Slick Ric - January 25, 2012
I'm very chill lol
i just don’t like our chances without Rose 100% healthy. I’m thinking big picture here.
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
Like I said
Sitting Rose for 1 month wouldn’t help that much. The only way for him to get 100% would be to not walk for awhile. To get around 90% he would have to probably wear a boot for a long time.
Saukrates - January 25, 2012
I'm sure if you sit rose for a clean month
and he stays in his boot he will be noticeably healthier
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
And out of shape
Saukrates - January 25, 2012
jw...why did you get a new username?
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Good question. Felt it was time for a change. Plus, the naming the year things seems kinda dead.
Saukrates - January 25, 2012
cool, i m probably thinking to change my username too
considering theo is trading players off left and right, geo might be next.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
I agree
He doesn’t look like himself, and that has to be because the toe. He was looking for jumpers, didn’t push the ball at all. It tells you how good he is that he was still able to have a pretty good night, but that was not Derrick Rose
Juiceboxjerry - January 25, 2012
yep
i have a feeling he’s gonna try and be a tough guy and deal with it though..
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
he needs to take more mid range jumpers and limit the three pt attempts a bit
then hell be fine
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Yup
He’ll adjust, but it will take time. Rip needed to help today and simply didn’t.
DRoseO1 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
the foot will adjust thru time but i can tell he lost some balance
hell be fine in 1 week.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Rose didn't seem that off
He shot 9-19 and got flat out murdered on one of his misses. The lane closes up quite a bit when boozer and rip can’t hit a damn thing.
DRoseO1 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
i know he didn't play bad
but he played limited, he played like he didn’t want to hurt himself.
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
And I think he should to a certain extent
This game was meaningless. Needs to be as close to 100% by playoffs.
DRoseO1 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
yeah that's why he should sit out for a bit
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
Some things
Rose should not have passed that last one. Might have missed, but prolly would have gotten fouled if not. But, why was scal out there? That was dumb.
But rip was 6-20. Ouch. Bulls could not hit a 15 for jumper ( aside from rose and brewer) and they still should have won. That missed foul when rose got clotheslined was just awful. Feel bad, but not concerned just yet.
DRoseO1 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
Yeah, that was a horrible missed call
Juiceboxjerry - January 25, 2012
nah, rose made the right play
Stay Chisel - January 25, 2012
It was just to the wrong guy
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
some of yall seriously need to chill!
the pacers are not a top/elite team in the east and we didnt need deng or taj to win this game. it would of hurt to have taj though because our rebounding could of been better but the pacers were getting a lot of lucky losse balls.
Slick Ric - January 25, 2012
taj coming back friday
thank the lawd!
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
*it would'nt have hurt
Slick Ric - January 25, 2012
just a bad night for everyone
except Noah and Brewer
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
I'm not sure about Noah
Hibbert was beating him like he stole something.
Saukrates - January 25, 2012
Hibbert was shooting jump hooks
he’s huge there’s really nothing Noah or any other center could do. Noah did however make tons of clutch rebounds and putbacks.
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
Well Dwight can
But fuck dwight he dont want to come here
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
It's not gonna get any easier, we got most of the cupcakes out of the way already
Need physical Noah back, and CJ can’t be an 0-fer from the floor anymore
Big illinoize - January 25, 2012
Really forgot about cj
He was atrocious.
DRoseO1 - January 25, 2012 via Android app
noah has never really been physical, he just outworks everybody
he’s been inconsistent in doing so this season.
Slick Ric - January 25, 2012
Lets flush this one down the toilet
And get the next couple (esp. Miami mainly because I have money on that game)
Rose1 - January 25, 2012
Amen to that
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
The NBA
Where the MVP getting mugged is apparently ok happens….I hate indy as much as the detroit lions, both are exactly the same punkass teams from player to coach…
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
yeah the refs were horrible
I dont understand how you cant be physical with the big guys(they called some soft ass fouls for hibbert,hansborough and west) but let a point guard get mugged repeatedly.
Slick Ric - January 25, 2012
When they actually had to talk when Brew got fouled by 3 people
I fucking lost it
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
seriously and yet people on this blog have the nerve to say it was "evenly reffed" for both sides?! fuck that!
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Well, each team was called for the same amount of fouls and shot the same amount of free throws.
Seems kind of even.
dakoose - January 25, 2012
the refs only reversed that Brewer call
because they knew they had no chance of getting out of Chicago alive if they didn’t
MartyMondays - January 25, 2012
I mean Come On, Scal....
Don’t you WANT that starting job????
Big illinoize - January 25, 2012
It's amazing how much that pacer team is like the detroit lions
Both teams get preseason hype of improving, both seem likeable in the beginning (well detroit at 1st did) because they sucked for a while and underdog shit…Both became dirty ass bitch teams and are hated. Both teams have douchebag players with douchebag coaches advocating dirty play and acting like they won a title in the regular season. Both teams get away with it. Difference is Indy dont have that poster boy who is dirty like Detroit does with Suh….Seriously they are damn near alike
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
Yeah, but we're better, so who cares. Fuck them.
Juiceboxjerry - January 25, 2012
I know
Im just worried, If the refs were this bad against them. How bad will they be against Flopami?
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
Bulls need to work on their flop-acting
Big illinoize - January 25, 2012
Rip, Asik, and Kyle tried
and failed
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
we need nocioni
damn he was a good flopper!
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
need to hire DIVAC!!!
FLOP COACH!
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
"Difference is Indy dont have that poster boy who is dirty like Detroit does with Suh"
Jeff Foster would like a word with you.
Poloplaya14 - January 25, 2012
Yeah
But Suh is actually a damn good player, Dumb but good…
T.Moore - January 26, 2012
I missed most of the game
only watched the last 1:33. Is there a reason we put Scal in there?? I mean, we actually needed a WIN. Did I miss the announcers saying that Scal was the most clutch player in the world or something??
Micdiddy - January 25, 2012
yes, they did say scal is mr. clutch redux.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
If he makes that
Indy will be contracted
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
RIP Milwaukee
shutupdrogba - January 25, 2012
i hope he rips the bucks a new asshole
im still pissed bout this loss.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
i'm over it
refs were bad
rip was bad
cj was bad
no deng, no taj, so we were subjected to a game winning attempt by scal… shit happens. we’re still the best!
Jaina - January 25, 2012
Yeah, I'm over it too
The thing that makes it hurt a bit more is that it was the Pacers, at home. And the fact that the schedule gets very tough now, and a few East teams lost today. We had a chance to separate ourselves a bit.
And if the Bulls sleep on Milwaukee, they’re gonna be in a similar situation Friday. Bucks are playing well right now
Juiceboxjerry - January 25, 2012
on the bright side, taj is coming back...
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
yeah, i don't see that happening
bulls have proven so far and last season that they bounce back very well (save the ecf).
after the 9 game trip though, the schedule is pretty favorable. bulls deserve it after playing the most games in the league and having a ton of road games already.
but yeah i mean it is def annoying that we lost to the pacers at home, but it’s pretty pathetic they acted like they just won the championship with that.
Jaina - January 25, 2012
Juiceboxjerry - January 25, 2012
oh shit...
its over pacers! Rose is gonna hunt ur asses down!
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Heres to Rose
Tearing them a new one
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
RIP Pacers
Saukrates - January 25, 2012
Well, if it hurts that much to see them celebrate a victory, you should try doing something about it.
Attack the hoop more, don’t settle for J’s and 3’s and try not passing to a bum for the game winning shot.
Rose did not have a bad game, but he came out like gangbusters and followed up a stellar first quarter with some very mediocre basketball. His team needed the MVP edition of DRose tonight.
dakoose - January 25, 2012
dont worry, rose will do what ur expecting from him
i think rose is gonna snap this friday
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
What I want to see from Rose is straight domination.
More attacking and less threes with consistent production throughout the game. He’s only had a handful of games in his career where he feasted for 4 full quarters. Thats what I wanna see from Derrick soon, some legit domination.
dakoose - January 25, 2012
wish we were playing miami next.
gooses - January 26, 2012
why not
why cant i make them pay for celebrating at my teams expense
-derrick rose
piccolomair - January 26, 2012
OT but this is our SG of the future
shutupdrogba - January 25, 2012
fuck yes, eric gordan for SG?!
killer combo rose and gordon! Would have to be a sign and trade though. Any suggestions?
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
would be the best court in the NBA for years...imagine
shutupdrogba - January 25, 2012
if i were the bulls, i would seriously consider opening up the wallets for this dude
gordon is nasty. Him and rose would wreck havoc on all defenses. Hell, not even the Heats defense at its best can take both of them at the same time.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
only if gordon can stay in the game...
not exactly the pinnacle of health over there
Jaina - January 25, 2012
i heard he got a bruised knee?
it cant be b.c he has been out for some time already.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
yeah he's only played 2 games
and they’re saying he’s going to be out another 3 weeks. something doesn’t seem right.
Jaina - January 25, 2012
i smell torn MCL
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Well 3-4 weeks is the average time it usually takes to heal a bruised knee anyways
I really question the Hornets training staff though since I’m wondering what gave them the idea that they could bring Gordon back the first time. He obviously re-aggravated it, but how quickly he did leaves me wondering what they hell is going on with the training staff over there. He came back after 1 week when he should have been out 3 from the start.
Saukrates - January 25, 2012
that's his only problem....
injury filled career so far but he’s young and his potential is worth it
shutupdrogba - January 25, 2012
Yeah, that dude can't stay on the court
LOVE how he would fit with the Bulls, but I think i’d have to pass. He makes Luol look like Cal Ripken
Juiceboxjerry - January 25, 2012
lol, come on now, you know dengs injury was a "freek injury"
i wouldnt really put in the category of injury prone (knock on wood).
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Unfortunately, I think that team we played today
would have to be the favorite to acquire Gordon. Cheaper assets + Hometown.
Bobby Tables - January 25, 2012
Well since it would have to be a S + T, and we're talking about the Hornets...
My suggestion is for Reinsdorf to start being really friendly to David Stern.
Poloplaya14 - January 25, 2012
AAU
RED_BULL - January 25, 2012
Rose Revenge Game is Pending till next Bulls Pacers game.
RED_BULL - January 25, 2012
You guys rightly hate on Scal
But I’ll take that guy shooting a wide open trey in any situation. Perfect play by Rose, nobody makes shots every time but an open Scal is pretty close. Guy is not good at basketball but hating on that play by Rose is wrong.
Gentleman Jim - January 25, 2012
not hating on scal or anything, but this game proved how much the bulls missed taj
him and asik have crucial value from bench and we need them to be heatlhy (knock on wood)
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
What??
Lets all admit it: Scalibrine is not a good basketball player. Moreso, he’s a bad player who can’t get burn unless his team gets ravaged by injuries. Rose made a bad decision in passing to a guy like Scal; he’s been talking about his higher basketball IQ but there’s nothing intelligent about passing to Scal for a game winning shot. Stacey says it all the time, KYP, know your personel. Scal should not have been out there, but there’s still no excuse for passing to Scal.
dakoose - January 25, 2012
I know there’s hate for the guy, but that’s a huge exaggeration.
docks - January 25, 2012
Sorry, but you're just wrong.
He’s the last guy off the bench on damn near every team in this league.
dakoose - January 26, 2012
Regardless, doesn’t that still qualify him as one of the top 100/150 players in the world?
docks - January 26, 2012
Scal is not a good basketball player and he should not have been out there
But Gentleman Jim is right; Scalabrine can knock down open jumpers, and I have no problem with Rose passing to him there.
Poloplaya14 - January 25, 2012
Then we agree to disagree,
because I’m of the opinion that there are some guys who you simply don’t pass to in crunch time. Taj and Noah are guys you don’t give the last shot to, same goes for Scal and Omer. Last shots are reserved for shot-makers, not clowns off the bench.
dakoose - January 26, 2012
damn, would have been nice if we had deng :(
Geo4MVP - January 26, 2012
he was wide open and Hibbert, who had 4 blocks, was rotating over
Scal should have moved in closer, instead of taking the 3. He is a “stretch” 4, but his range doesn’t extend to 22 ft.
Basketball Smurf - January 26, 2012
Sure it does.
He hasn’t had the chance to take many 3PAs since coming to Chicago, but he’s definitely shown that level of range in the past.
Poloplaya14 - January 26, 2012
Then Rose was stupid for taking it all the way in on Hibbert.
If getting into the lane means dishing to Scal, don’t get in the damn lane; take a step-back J.
dakoose - January 26, 2012
Zero problem with Rose throwing that pass to Scalabrine
It was the rest of the fourth quarter where he was stunningly timid that pissed me off.
Juiceboxjerry - January 26, 2012
Stuningly timid?
They switched over their best defensive player and brought a more aggressive double team since they knew no other Bull was a threat to score.
RogersPark Kris - January 26, 2012
Can someone please remind those guys that it was a 5 game series? Please.
Juiceboxjerry - January 25, 2012
yeah, but you could say that about us and the heat, too.
Jaina - January 25, 2012
Actually I do, and people hate me for it
Juiceboxjerry - January 25, 2012
Well, the Bulls got better
by acquiring a veteran upgrade at a spot we were deficient at. So they must have caught up to the other team.
Wait, what?
Bobby Tables - January 25, 2012
wow, what a bunch of losers
idc if they won, but if they are excited winning this game, wait till they see us in the playoffs again.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Imo
Vogel will be stuck on that team, They are the ATL hawks midwest, being a good team but will never win one. But hey! They’re happy about a regular season game against a team losing their 2nd best player and Taj and barely beaten them due to us sucking and the refs being horrible to do it…In that case congrats to them…
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
one more home game against the bucks...lets hope we end with a pos note!
i want the bulls to crush the bucks. Show no mercy and make skiles cry like a little bitch. I want the bulls to be looking for blood!
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
This is the Second time Pacers celebrated this season.
RED_BULL - January 25, 2012
2nd time?
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
exhibition game?
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Didnt they lose both
T.Moore - January 25, 2012
ur right, they did
jus checked. the first agme was close but the second one was a blowout.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
against the Lakers.
RED_BULL - January 25, 2012
i honestly believe the kick out to scal for the potential game winning three was planned. this was ‘veeckian’ like.
explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit - January 25, 2012
Noah's numbers were better
but his limitations guarding the post were on display tonight. We need to do a better job locking down the paint against Indy.
Basketball Smurf - January 25, 2012
could have used gibs tonight
very important interior defender.
Geo4MVP - January 25, 2012
Indiana's honestly now in the running for "best frontcourt in the league"
What with the Lakers losing Odom and Boozer/Noah stinking it up this year. I’d still put Orlando in the top spot, but Indiana’s not far behind.
Poloplaya14 - January 26, 2012
But still
Hibbert makes me cringe, His stuff just looks so ugly
T.Moore - January 26, 2012
they are deep
and they can score. Hibbert is a big body with nice touch. Still, Noah was giving him way too deep of position.
Basketball Smurf - January 26, 2012
Luol Deng is absolutely a game-changer
It’s not like the Bulls are significantly
Poloplaya14 - January 26, 2012
Whoops
It’s not like the Bulls are significantly worse in any one area, but Deng has a positive impact on just about every facet of the game, which makes it a lot harder for the Bulls to win. I still think we can be a great team without him, but everybody else needs to step up to cover for his absence.
Poloplaya14 - January 26, 2012
the defense on granger and the defensive rebounding were the two noticeable areas tonight
Basketball Smurf - January 26, 2012
Yup
Also spacing. Having three guys out there who aren’t long-range threats (Brewer, Boozer, Noah) made it very hard to get things going offensively. Brewer got his, but he made things a lot more difficult his teammates, which is why he had only a +0, despite having a superb statline. I think Korver should’ve gotten more run.
Poloplaya14 - January 26, 2012
i agree, i was surprised he didnt get the last shot
Geo4MVP - January 26, 2012
i didnt catch the game
but….korver was still slumping, at least in the first half, i heard.
piccolomair - January 26, 2012
I only caught the second half, but he was 1-2 on 3PAs
Maybe people were referring to his defense?
Poloplaya14 - January 26, 2012
yeah, he got killed by granger.
Geo4MVP - January 26, 2012
still, gotta still go with the guy who has the best shot being the open jumper
Geo4MVP - January 26, 2012
bulls lose a close one
heat win a close won…..worlds ending for sure
piccolomair - January 26, 2012
lmao, the heat almost lost to the pistons
if it were the bulls losing to the pistons, i think i will get sick.
Geo4MVP - January 26, 2012
only a game up in the loss column
could be tied after sunday…
Basketball Smurf - January 26, 2012
wait, who r the heat playing next
Geo4MVP - January 26, 2012
Let me check the heat index...
The New York Knickerbockers presented by Pringles.
Basketball Smurf - January 26, 2012
fuck!
idk who to root for. I hate both of them!
Geo4MVP - January 26, 2012
hey if there was a game that amare and melo were gonna decide to play defense
its gonna be this game
piccolomair - January 26, 2012
a part of me is sort of glad the heat are getting these close games
im so hoping that regardless of the record they continue going into these grindy games and over time situations. Basically a flip flop of what happened last season. THe bulls grinded out wins to the best record in the league, but ended up with tired legs by the playoffs, the heat crushed opponents in their wins, and were fairly fresh, and ended up at full power by the 3rd round against us. Im hoping the heat have some tired legs, although with the way thibs is pushing guys, we might have tired legs regardless
piccolomair - January 26, 2012
its obvious they miss wade
people r foolish to think they r better without wade
Geo4MVP - January 26, 2012
nah, it was more injuries rather than tried legs.
rose sprained ankle, booz big toe hurted the bulls chances in the 3rd round.
Geo4MVP - January 26, 2012
I was hoping for some noah/ Asik
I had high hopes w/ boozer in foul trouble. Noah can stop west, Asik can handle hibbert. but oh well.
gooses - January 26, 2012
VDN being VDN
foul with 1.1 seconds left down by 4.
Basketball Smurf - January 26, 2012
shitty defense by the clips...oh wait, i forgot, its VDN bball!
Geo4MVP - January 26, 2012
One thing was clear to me watching Rose tonight.
He isn’t 100%. He drove hard to the basket with the intention of drawing contact only twice tonight. He’s hurt. Now, that really isn’t THAT big of a problem except that his damn toe will never heal. He shot a lot of jumpers (hit a lot of them as well) but he is not the same “scare teams shitless” player unless he is driving to the paint.
As for the Pacers, people are saying to give them credit. I’ll give them credit when they beat us in a game where we aren’t forced to play Brian Scalabrine. We had 8 bench points…these injuries are depleting our bench depth and forcing Thibs to put different players on the court together. It may help in the long run, but teams will not be facing us anywhere near full strength for a while.
Brigade17 - January 26, 2012
Also, another thing...
Boozer should be fucking embarassed. For the last 2 minutes of the game, he got pulled for BRIAN SCALABRINE. Are you kidding me, Boozer? Do I have to drive up to Chicago and light a fire under your ass? It’s pathetic!
Brigade17 - January 26, 2012
I didn’t get to watch the game, but still laugh at going through the game thread and seeing people complaining about the refs like they do after every game (loss).
How did this happen when we were up by TEN at halftime?
MichaelClutchtree - January 26, 2012
Rose's toe caused him to not be able to take over late, also Scalabrine was in late, also the Bulls didnt shoot many threes late, also the Pacers were awesome at jumpers, also Hibbert tended to dunk
kpd - January 26, 2012
There are major, major, big time issues that were exposed tonight
-The Bulls are 3-4 against good teams, and three of those losses were blowouts
-Thibs is a better defensive mind, but I’d say Vogel at least equals him as a coach
-I don’t care how Boozer/Noah/Asik/Butler/Gibson (when he’s playing) do during a game. Unless all five guys are hurt, no way in hell Scal should be in the game at crunch time over any of them. I don’t care if they are a combined 0-47 with 0 rebounds, they all play over Scal in crunch time.
-We should NEVER lose a close game, especially at home, if Derrick Rose is playing. Tonight we did, and that shows how significant that this toe injury is. I’d say this game shows that it’s EXTREMELY unlikely we beat Miami on Sunday or Miami in a 7 game series with Rose’s toe the way it is. He has to be able to take over for us to win this type of game, especially with no Deng or a shell-of-himself Deng. If Rose couldn’t win us this game tonight, there are serious, serious issues going forward.
-It’s disturbing that the Bulls are STILL getting bit in the ass by teams that should not be as good as them, but are also not afraid of them. The Bulls are not good enough (especially with no Deng) to take other teams lightly. Even Miami gets bit doing that sometimes. Last year against the Pacers and Hawks in the playoffs, and this year against Atlanta, Pacers, and Grizzlies the Bulls seemed to think they “should” win, and then lost because these other good young teams arent afraid of them. The Bulls are taking teams lightly, and they have played VERY poorly against good opponents this season.
kpd - January 26, 2012
This is near "sin" worthy
T.Moore - January 26, 2012
low blow!
kpd - January 26, 2012
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