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2011-12 Open Game Thread #14 OVERFLOW: Bulls vs Toronto Raptors

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Boozer has not been getting back on defense
We are terrible at tap ins
Nice pull up DRose

gotta get a rhythem first before shooting those 3’s

Rasual on toronto

huh

lucky shot
yeah, he makes that 1 out of 10 times probably.
DeRozan ... whaaa?

three with a hand.

Tough shot there by DeRozan
We need Tebow at the 2, plain and simple
Tebow can't shoot
Dammit deng!

Lob that shit!

we look so slow and tired
That's a 4 point swing because Deng can't throw a lob

Damn!

Bad pass and then a bad foul on the other end for Lu
Deng is not great...

at the lob on the break…

Deng hopeless on fast breaks
Deng just messed up the alley-oop

I am so mad

Blls look tired

silly mistakes

Boozer grab that shit just dont wave at it
Rose was all alone
Wow, Bulls can't secure a rebound today!
WTF is wrong with boozer and easy rebounds
GRAB THAT SHIT EVERYONE AT ONCE

… oh wait the out of bounds

that's it ..

right there … that’s it, Boozy!

WTF Boozer grab that shit just dont wave at it
anyone have a link?
www.watchitonwgn.com

I’m sure firsttv or something has it but eh.

try vipstand.me

then you’ll figure it out from there.

God Damn it Carlos

That’s the second time tonight where’s he’s put it out of bounds on an easy rebound.

Good job Boozer

take the rebound from Jo

Boozer mover your fucking lazy piece of shit ass
I'm starting to worry about that game
The East...

is a mess…

Nice steal Booz
"gosh darnit"

Almost, Neil. Almost.

Why is this game close?
5th game in 6 days?
Jo got 12 boards

He’s coming back to form

has boozer even attempted a take to the basket this year?
He got a post up early this game
right but has he ever tried beating his man off the dribble 15 feet away from the basket?

he did that pretty consistently with Utah

the rim ...

has a restraining order on Boozer, apparently…

He posted up once, missed one point blank pby bouncing it off the underside of the rim, got a goaltend earlier
he did and got blocked by the rim! LOL
Rose for 3!

Neil says it was long when he was basically at the line. Good eyes, neil.

There you go DRose!
Derrick Rose!!!
Deng's double double streak ends tonight
Rose 16 and 6 no turnovers

nice game.

Rose sinking a 3

is like the #1 thing I like to see on a Bulls possession.

Rose attempting a 3 not so much, but sinking it I’ll take all day.

Bulls playing down to the competition tonight.
they havent been able to have a practice for like 3 weeks

I’m alright with it

it happens just saying
Taj. Asik doesn't have good hands.

don’t fire it at him point blank.

Taj

STOP PASSING SO DAMN HARD…Asik is right there

Taj you bum

Dunk that. You were right there!

no foul ref? really?
Thats Bullshit thats a T on Johnson
what did he do?
argued demonstratively at the ref after he fouled
ahh, missed that
LOL

Asik is so weird

Korver should play 30 minutes against a team like the Raptors.
God damn man your making James Johnson look like a fucking All-Star

As long at the Bulls win, I don’t care how ugly they play…these guys are tired.

I hope they don't lose this game
That makes two of us.
They wont

Seen this episode many times

And yet I never stop being worried :P
Thank you Lucas

This is one of those time that it’s good you’re not afraid to shoot!

See

The Unicorn will save us

Nice DRose didnt shoot the 3 and found someone

Basketball IQ

I like this new

drive and dish Rose mentality.

Or jump at the arc and dish, whatever it is he’s hitting the open guy.

Yup that wins Titles baby
DRose 3 straight assists

9 total.

Can't wait for J.Lucas III to become the Bobcats starting guard next year
or the raptors

they seem to get our third string players.

See where your sarcastic smirk takes you JJ
Kyle ice cold tonight
I know IDK how he missed the last one
Rose is a beast, that's not new
Nice Taj get in there and get dirty!
man jL3 is short

just saw him next to rose.

Well, let's keep this up
Pats just stuck a skewer in Tebow. They're done.
Tebow 4th clutch powers will be really tested
These are the kind of games that frustrate you...

Raps shooting 37.5%- game shouldn’t be this close-

5th game in 6 nights?
Granted

but I was expecting a double digit win against a poor shooting Raps team, especially with Rose playing well. I missed the entire first half..

Taj should have dramatized a little bit
Did anyone have a Bulls-Miami-Korver-for-the-win flashback when

Korver went for the rebound just then?

JL3

Just shoot it

Lol, Booz

playing Magloire style

Booz playing scared at the basket
should have been a foul too
If the rose missed that

Ref calls that foul

Yeah these NBA refs are funny arent they
Rose baby but Boozer blew an easy assit for him
he's so weak

Go buy a dog!

Rose got fouled there
Now Rose is 18/10

still with no turnovers.

This is MVP baby!

he should have more if Boozer didnt keep on getting his shot blocked by himself or the rim
more assists that is
Rose excellent as always

Taj really bringing it on the offensive boards.

Is it intern night at wgn again?
WGN done fucked up.
What's the lowest amount of points scored in an NBA game?
55 or sum i think
18-17?

I want to say the Ft. Wayne Pistons were involved.

lol, u wont believe me when i say this...

it was the bulls! 49 points against the miami heat!
http://nbahoopsonline.com/History/Records/pointsfew.html

creepy as hell!

right, this is post shot clock

I think the game I’m referencing might be before then.
ugh, ’99 Bulls, huh… was Dickey Simpkins the starting PF in that? LOL

yes, he was, lmao
nice graphic up top. deron williams, elton brand, melo, dr J, MJ and, of course, TJ ford.
holy hell yeah
why is brewy not playing? did i miss sum?
Another opponent under 70
Fuck you ref

Booz was fouled

Boozer shrinking from the contact..
Every time he pussies out they should shrink that contract
After all, Lucas has done a great job replacing C.J
BOOZ MOVED HIS FEET THOOOO
Refs have been swallowing those whistles
Brewer didn't get hurt did he?

Just wondering why John is in. Haven’t been watching.

nothing has been said

think its a matchup thing

I think its because the Bulls were having trouble with the zone.

needed more shooting/ball handling.

One of those Thibs thing

where Lucas was in when we started to pull away so he’s just keeping with what works and all that.

Before this game opponents were scoring 67.5 points per game

at the UC.

This is the best defense ever.

Wow. That's incredible.
There you go booz

Just go up there quick

Crowd chanting for SCAL
I like how Rose is focused on passing the ball in the 2nd half epecially against a bad team like Toronto

Jordan used to do the same thing and get his teammates more involved especially against less talented teams

First team to score 70 in the UC wins a playoff spot
We're done here

Now let’s all go back to watching Tebow lay an egg

Now let's watch tebow getting raped
Hell yeah
He better pray Brady keeps it under 50 tonight.

I wouldn’t. His smug “aw shucks it’s all for God that I’m so awesome” schtick was worn out in November. I’d run it up to 80 on his behind.

Next Fan Poll

How many will the Pats have at the end of the night…

I'm expecting them to play Scalabrine at some point
We're a 4th Quarter Team, definitly
Just like last year

We scored more 4th Q points than any other team. I think we were even +50 over 2nd place in that category.

Just speaks towards our superior coaching, bench and clutch superstar.

NY getting dismantled by OKC
they gave up 70 first half pts

horrible

Mike Bibby - Shumpert - Bill Walker

all in the starting lineup.

Sacremento has 23 points at the half

now THAT horrible.

I seem to remember a team that had 26 at the half a week ago...
Bulls had 26 against Atlanta. That was nuts.
i have tyreke on my fantasy team

THAT’s horrible.

nice win bulls but plz

Sign sheed.Noah and asik are useless on offense atleast sheed can provide some scoring and open up the offense when needed every now and again and we wont lose defense with him

Young teams are going be taking advantage of this condensed schedule...

No season for Old Men

Nostradamus powers at work here..

You could see that working for the younger players on Toronto for awhile.

Though the Bulls sure look disinterested as well for awhile. You can’t expect them to play with the same energy every night nor get up for chumps like this team is without Bargnani. or with him really.

Missed the game, but saw the box score

Other than Rose’s inefficient shooting tonight, how did he look?

Like an MVP

Seriously he played great. Missed most of his 3’s when it didn’t matter. Missed some drives he usually hits and we got the rebounds anyway. Made awesome dimes he rarely makes so that was great to see. Lead the team, no hate for him on this one.

He honestly didn't look too much for his shot today

seemed intent to mainly facilitate the offense throughout the game. Alot of those 20 shots ended up being last second, bailout shots because of the Bulls struggle against the zone the Raptors used. Also missed on a few drives he usually scores on. I liked how a lot of his assists were at the rim.

This just in

Tebow 3/12 for 28 yds QBR 39.6

I’m just piling on. Ignore.

The Kings have more points than Tebow has yards
I saw those stats (or close to it a little while ago)

They’re worth laughing about, it’s epic. Also to be expected. Zealous fans + analysts wanting to jump on the bandwagon led to completely unrealistic expectations.

Den fumble recovery

If they actually do something with this there should be an Around the NFL thread

Brady has more TD passes than tebow has completions

>actual CBS graphic

He's a Gamer, He's a Baller

Playmaker and a shot caller…

…DAMN YOU, FIRST TAKE!!!

Ellis just pounded his face into the frozen tundra.

Nice hit there.

He shattered the mold

DAMN IT AGAIN!!!

I bet he's wondering why

all those prayer crosses he sent to those kids in Africa aren’t helping him pass better now.

It isn't Sunday

So the Broncos can’t UNLEASH him

ugh…

wow u guys hate a guy

for being too nice. thats haterade at its finest. he hasnt dont one bad thing but u hate him. think about it , what does that make u?

Tebow stopped being "too nice" when he acted in a commercial for Focus on the Family

If you are a spokes person for an organization known for bigotry and intolerance, you don’t have a problem with being too nice.

Bulls Don't Try, Win by Double Digits
I missed the game, just got off work

Someone give me a quick summary of the game

Bulls defense is still incredible.

Bulls had trouble with the zone and went through some scoring lulls. If it weren’t for James Johnson who had a great 1st half, Bulls win by 20.

The closing lineup was weird Taj – Boozer – Deng/Korver – Lucas – Rose.

Obviously tired Bulls defensively dominate an obviously tired talentless Raptors team

Raps couldn’t hit the broad side

My take

Bulls jumped out a big lead with the starters all looking good.
Toronto’s bench went to a zone, while James Johnson and Leandro Barbosa had an offensive burst in the 2nd closing that lead.
The third quarter was pretty ugly, as neither team looked good
The 4th quarter Thibs brought Lucas in for Brewer, the bulls locked down on defense, Taj made plays busting the zone via offensive rebounding.

Brewer didn’t look particularly good
Rose played floor general rather than initiating the offense
The zone gave our 2nd unit trouble (Korver was unable to make them pay)
3 Bulls had double-doubles Rose (pts assists) Booze and Taj (pts rebounds)

Don't forget that in the 2nd

our bench looked worse than it has in two years. Luckily this is not something to worry about long term.

Despite there being times in the 3rd where I legitimately thought we might have a small chance of losing, this turned out to be a pretty solid, satisfying win.

JL3 had some good plays at the end.

He might earn more playing time against the poor teams coming up on the schedule. We sure like to have a boost from a scorer with energy around Rose.

That cross-over in the lane

was awesome.

He already earned more playing time this game.

this is the first time he’s come in at the 2 spot, purely digging into Brewer and Korver’s minutes.

I liked Rose/Watson last year and I dug Rose/Lucas in this game.

yeah, two players who can create their own shot

is what the bulls needed against their zone. CJ and Rose would probably be used alot later this season if rip and rose cant break down the zone. however, I think with rip the bulls will do alot better against the zone.

I think Thibs

Is getting it..

indeed, he really has shown improvement in coaching in regards to offense

i jus love how he analyzes the opposing team defense and then calls a timeout if he sees something wrong with our offense. I m starting to believe he can def build a strong offense when it comes playoff time.

Of the backcourt players

Brewer is probably the worst option against the zone. But brewer/korver/lucas are the only options right now.

yeah, this is where CJ missed

as well as rip obviously. Thsoe two will maek a big difference against an opposing teams zone.

Yeah I agree

but its worrisome that the Bulls have this particular weakness, and it doesn’t seem like they know what to do immediately.

they are starting to get it at least

this is what the heat did against us last yr and the bulls did not respond to that. They should have done the CJ and rose combo last year more in the playoffs, but w.e, thats in the past. Tonight and yesterday showed thibs can dismantle a teams 2-3 zone.

It helped Toronto went back to man to man after the half.

I guess they wanted a contrast by going back to the zone for the fourth quarter in particular. I would have stayed with what was working. Either way I’m glad Thibs figured it out.

nice
korver was unable to make them pay

cause he only took 3 shots the entire game. every time lucas gave him the ball he was covered. as soon as rose came in, he got kyle a wide open shot (although he missed).

yeah, they didnt utilize korver well tonight
can't be a zone buster if he never gets a good shot.
yeah, but i think they got it right if they put in two players who can create their own shot

put in a lineup of rose, CJ/lucas, korver, gibson, and noah. Lucas/Rose penetrating will be difficult for the opposing defense to cover them and korver at the same time. Utilize the pick and roll and kick it out to korver and KABOOM! 3!

See post above yours
I miss the game. What was the score
wow, rose and lucas combo?

didnt see that coming, lmao. nonetheless, it worked and its good to see thibs experimenting with different lineups.

Bulls 4th quarters

Tonight 21-12
Boston 21-20
Washington 21-11
Minnesota 32-26
Detroit 24-9
Atlanta 32-24 (loss)
Orlando 24-21
Detroit 28-25
Atlanta 34-18

damn those numbers look nice

tight defense and clutch scoring. Lets hope that continue into the playoffs.

in other news,

lakers vs clippers. anyone gonna out up a game thread for that?

DEN fight with NE

Seriously though?!? What is there to fight about in this game????

That they got embarrassed on national TV. Just frustration.
Lol @ these announcers

Of all the times to gush about Tebow’s greatness they pick NOW??

I agree.

They know the public will still love him. Just selling the product to an audience that will believe anything I guess.

Lucas and Rose on the floor at the same time,

Gave the bulls a new dynamic tonight – A second option who can create his own shot. Boozer didnt get enough low post isolation plays ran for him which sucked. The bulls need athat inside scoring consistency so badly. Anyway, a convincing win. Good Job.

when CJ comes back, there will be three options!

and i think rip can still be effective even without being able to create his own shot.

CJ's shot selection is questionable.

Lucas also has problems with shot selection but with more experience i think he can overcome it. Rip creates for himself off the ball as does korver. Lets hope the bulls get a solid back end of the season with there full squad healthy.

cj's a much better passer though

i’m getting pretty tired of watching lucas chuck it… he’s been better than expected, but still…

I agree.

I think lucas all round game will become alot more effecient with experience. Having that extra guy that can create his own shot of the dribble really takes a load of rose. Lets see what happens.
BTW, Ray Allen would be a really good fit for us right now.

dude, if ray allen is traded to the bulls, i would be running screaming around chicago "WE GOT ALLEN!"

who knows, if celts continue to blow, maybe the bulls can inquire bout Ray Ray!

its a pipe dream, but like you said who knows.

noah + rip for allen and oneal. It would give boston 2 starters and round out there starting 5 aswell as the fact that noah has many more years left in the tank yet.

really? noah? what if he continues to play well like yesterday and today? idk bout that trade, haha.
Allen's great, but he's also old.
This LA v LA game is awesome.

Chicago needs a second team.

hmmm...the chicago lightning!
speaking of LA...KOBE IS AT IT AGAIN

holy shit, another 40 pt performance on the horizon? damn, kobe is playin out his damn mind! what the hell did he do in germany?! find the fuckin fountain of youth?1

Yeah, that three just a second ago was classic black mamba

but so was the heat check the next possession.

yeah, i hate to say this, but i think he deserves the MVP if he continues to do well throughout the seasonn

of course, D-rose, LeBron, and Durant are gonna compete for it too, but Kobe deserves it! The man is literally carrying the lakers.

i don't know

Rose has been awesome, but he isnt posting MVP numbers as of yet

he will later on as the schedule loosens up a bit more

right now rose only cares bout winning and staying healthy b/c the schedule for rest of jan and feb is ridiculous. Hes going to have to be conservative as much as possible. Kobe on the other hand cant afford that since his team is without odom now.

If he's the sole all-star from the Bulls again

and the Bulls have the best record in the league, there will be an argument for it. He’s got a similar PER as last year, just more assists, less points.

yeah and his assists will go up with rip healthy (knock on wood*)
Chris Paul is a candidate too I'd say.

Turns a team into a contender just be being out there.

oh i def agree

however, durant is playing on a whole new level. Hes leading his team with the best record in the west and has shown improvement in majority of his game this year. But again, kobe is just one notch up on durant b.c of his crazy play as of late and possibly for the whole season (il lsay his avg will be close to 30 ppg).

If Kobe averages 40 with a decent shooting percentage,

he might get it, but then again, he might not if the Lakers don’t win enough games. Usually it’s the best player on the best team. The Bulls are much more likely to be the best team, and Rose is clearly their best player, so if the Bulls finish with the best record Rose could still be MVP even if his scoring is down.

OKC could be close record wise and Durants stats will likely be more MVPlike.
He also hasn't won it before. That will give him an advantage.
Wasn't Durant supposed to be last year's MVP?
the guy is seriously amazing. our old man cant even get on the floor. meanwhile, old man

kobe is putting up 40 and 50 point games, rebounding like a SF and dishing out assists at the highest rate of his career…. i know a certain masked SG who needs to take the first flight to Munich to have some German baby blood injected into his groin.

lol, as mentioned before, the groin injury as nothing to do with age!

i would be worried if it were some back injury/knee injury, but groin injuries are common in the NBA regardless of age. Lets hope he stays healthy once hes back (knock on wood8).

Kobe does it again! 40+ performance and damn, SHOT 50 PERCENT FROM THE FLOOR!

How we can win comfortably while scoring only 77 points (not unusual for the bulls) is beyond me.

How sick is our defense? Pretty f…..g sick. Has any team score 70 or more at the UC this season?

insane.

64, 74 (hawks), 68, 64, 64

Allowing 37 points in the first half and 27 points in the second half seems to be a repeating pattern.
i think part of it has to do with boozy and korver finally being a bit more committed to defense

i gotta say they are alot better this season than last. Plus, I can tell rose has put in alot of effort on his defense too.

Dude, Korver was actually like covering people.

I didn’t want to say it ‘cause I thought I’d be laughed at, but I was pleased with his defense this game.

i think almost everyone on this blog agrees he has been very agressive on D

your def dead on. He has been playing defense that can be considered above average.

17/13/2 with 1 TO. thats nice work by boozer.

11 AST, 0 TO, 3 STLS for derrick is sweet as well. like to see better shooting though.

pretty nuts that even this early in the season the clippers have played 5 fewer games than the lakers.
LOL the clips only played 8 games? yeah nuts

wth is up w/ that. we had 9 games in 12 days and they had 8 lol. stern sucks

9 now, but yeah, its odd. could be bad when they catch up with the rest of the league though, given

that its vinny’s quest in life to have blake and CP3 be the first guys to record 4000 minutes in a shortened season.

yeah when i think about it now, it could be bad if they make the playoffs.

and good for us.

Yep, it's encouraging that we've been through a very rough portion of the schedule and we're in such great shape

All these other teams are gonna have to endure the same shit

aaaannnnnd CP3 has a hamstring injury.

thanks, vinny. it takes a special kind of incompetence to run your star PG into the ground when his backup is a borderline all-star.

Or maybe Paul should be in better shape so he doesn't cramp up.

They were off for two days.

you think paul isnt in shape?
He looks a little chubby.
Mo Williams was injured last night didn't play.
Have you seen the Clippers record? 6-3.

They are a full 5 games behind in games played. It boggles my mind how that will have to be made up. This compressed season is so odd. Rational or not, it makes me despise Stern.

Early but impressive. Bulls #1 in stats that matter: points allowed, rebounds and wins
That Lakers-Clippers game was fucking awesome for a game that wasn't incredibly close
Lol Noah:

The Thibodeau-driven defense is in full effect.

“Thibs is always going to try to get the best out of us, even though he has never run up and down the court — ever,” a smiling Joakim Noah said.

i had a weird dream last night

That thibs got forced to go coach some italian team overseas for like a 2 week stretch and the team announced rose would be player coach for the time being. Guess bulls won all the games and coach rose reduced dengs minutes, thibs came back and played deng all 48 his next game.

Sounds like the result of tequila and tacos.
I didn't get a chance to watch this game

How was Noah’s play? Probably still too early to tell, but it seemed like the starting frontcourt looked better against Boston, I was hoping that carried over tonight.

he played well

He seems to be getting back to his old self

Nice! Good to hear

Thanks for the update, much appreciated.

VDN on Lob City's progression into an elite team.
“We’re just starting our process,” Del Negro said. “[The Lakers] have been around for a long time, but we’re just starting that process.”
PROCESS!
gotta love it
you knew this was coming.

stage 3 of the process, fire vinny (as JAF said)

Just like in Chicago

Next step of the process: fire Del Negro

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