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Bulls sweep back-to-back-to-back set running on fumes; Thibs says Rose doesn't have turf toe

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The Bulls joined the Thunder as the only teams in this chaotically condensed season as the only teams thus far to sweep a back-to-back-to-back set. Sure, the first game was against an awful Pistons team, the second was a struggle toward an 11-point win over the Timberwolves in Minnesota, and the last a difficult to watch but "inspired" test of endurance to not get trapped by the laughing stock Wizards Generals, but a strong feat to earn their eighth, ninth, and tenth wins.

After a crazy 11 days that featured eight games, the Bulls have pushed themselves to the top of the Eastern Conference for now at 10-2 -- 1.5 games in front of the Heat (8-3), who've lost two in a row on the road to the Warriors and Clippers, and two games in front of the Pacers (7-3) for the division lead.

Most of this three-game stretch wasn't pretty, but their defense continues to be the most valuable asset at the Madhouse on Madison. After allowing only 68 points hosting the Pisspots, the Bulls broke a record allowing the fewest points any team's allowed in the first three home games of the season in the shot clock era (206). Then, followed that up by only giving up 64 in the third game of a back-to-back-to-back, lowering their average points allowed to a ridiculous 67.5 per game through the first four of the year.

They're currently second to the 76ers (91.7) in points allowed per 100 possessions at 95.2, second in margin of victory (10.17), and third in opponents' eFG% (.449), according to Basketball-Reference.com.

Defense is a mix of players' IQ to make reads and know when to commit; their athleticism to man-up, help, and recover; the coaching staff's work ethic, IQ, strategies and tactics. But there's nothing in basketball -- especially in the NBA -- that requires more energy than defense and nothing on which effective defense is most dependent. That the Bulls GM Gar Forman has built this group of personnel for Tom Thibodeau to shut down even a pseudo-NBA team like Washington after traveling to-and-from Minnesota, playing the third game in three nights, is something special.

Add in that the Bulls grabbed 57.4% of all available rebounds in a game where both teams combined for 119 bricks to out-rebound the Generals 62-46 and there's really something special to assembling a team that's bigger than everyone else. The NBA: where size matters.

Other notes:

  • Hardly a side note, but there's great news from Thibs' mouth after Derrick Rose was forced to sit on Wednesday due an injury sustained in Tuesday's game. What was initially reported as turf toe is not, according to Thibs:
    Thibodeau pointed out the sprain is not turf toe, as Rose had suspected late Tuesday.

    "Hopefully, he'll be back in a day," Thibodeau said. "He usually responds very well to treatment."
    Whether or not Thibs is bluffing is unknown, but this has to be viewed as great news, if true because turf toe flat out sucks. Since getting it around last year's playoffs, Carlos Boozer still can't jump.

Star-divide

  • Immensely deserved props to John Lucas III on his 25-point performance. Not to take anything away from Lucas or the Bulls D I just fondled, but losing to a team whose third-string point guard plays 46 minutes and took 28 shots because he scored 25 points is about as Wizard-y as it gets. Basketbawful's "gast is still flabbered".

    Lost in the shuffle over JL3's quantity of shots and points was his only two turnovers for a rate of 6.5%. For reference, among point guards, the lowest rate in the NBA is Tony Parker at 11.2%.
  • yfBB hid a post of mine last week that conflicted with a game preview that had some nuggets I inserted elsewhere. I almost inserted this nugget into his recap of the Bulls Jan. 3 game against the Hawks:
    Not to beat a dead horse, but Noah was on the bench for all but the game-winning offense possession of Wednesday's come-from-behind, torture room material win over the Hawks.

    "That group got momentum going so we stayed with them," Tom Thibodeau said after the game, later adding: "I felt at that point you couldn't afford to have another lull. They looked like they were fine. And we were picking up our energy."

    It's kind of a problem when your eight-figure per year energy guy better serves the team's "momentum" and better prevents "another lull" off the floor, while reserves are "picking up" the "energy". Last season, it was easier to bypass these decisions by Thibs as blips, maybe even situational discipline; but seeing how Thibs has managed his fourth quarter rotations, dating back to the last postseason, coming from behind, when it is uncontroversial to question the limits of the coach's confidence in Noah's stamina and decision-making on defense?
    In a conversation with yfBB, I said, "I'll copy/paste the All-Star stuff into a FanPost and sit on Thibs quotes on 'energy' when the benching happens again, expecting that to be soon." Soon is now, as Thibs had the '$135 million duo' on the bench for the second consecutive fourth quarter. The Generals went on a 14-4 run in the third quarter to get a 51-49 lead with a little over 17 minutes remaining in the game. Noah sat the final 16:41 after JaVale McGee pretty much kicked his arse, Boozer sat the final 15:53, and the Bulls allowed 13 points in those final 17 minutes to win by 14.
  • Wednesday's 64 points by the Generals was the least in franchise history.
  • Thibs on the newest Bull, D-League Showcase Superstar Mike James, who played for then-assistant Thibs in Houston: "He’s tough, a hard nosed can who shoot the ball, run a pick and roll. I think he’ll fit in well. [...] Just come in and step up, lead the team, do exactly what we’ve been doing all year. We shouldn’t miss a beat. Just come in and hold the court down until he comes back."

    A lot of people will agree with Steve Rosenbloom's sentiments -- "Anybody with a basketball IQ above Jordan Crawford will be an issue for the Rose-less Bulls." -- but don't go too far; this is isn't the Bears without Jay Cutler. Sure, without Rose, they're not great, but they're more like the Bucks than the Pistons; also, Mr. Rosenbloom, the Nuggets, Sixers, Pacers, and Hawks are in pretty good shape. That said, C.J. Watson can't get healthy soon enough when we're grasping at straws of optimism on Lucas and James.
  • And... DUNK PR0N!


    And in the 'giving credit where due' category, good lord, John Wall:

Next up for the Bulls is whatever's left of the Celtics (4-5) by Friday. (For that news, CelticsBlog is beyond great.) Unfortunately, it's in Boston and the first of another back-to-back. Fortunately, Saturday's game is at the United Center and against the Raptors (4-7). We'll keep you updated on the status of Richard Hamilton (groin) and Watson (elbow), who are still listed as day-to-day, as news comes along.

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Isn't turf toe a sprain of the toe?
It's a different kind of sprain. Different ligaments, I think.
Jesus. Between the Bulls and the Bears the last couple of seasons I've learned way too much about this type of shit.
It's a sprain in the big toe.

I linked to the WebMD description in the post.

and it sucks ass, too

I had one. You limp for about a week, and then you don’t really get your athleticism fully back for – for me, not playing NBA basketball, not running every day – 6 months.

I like that you mentioned the Heat's 2nd loss in a row.

“There are guys in that locker room right now who are crying.”

Is it just me
or does Wall look like a guy who wished for Rose’s speed and athleticism, but now has no idea what to do with them?

(that dunk aside (although I’m pretty sure the good majority of us here could dunk on Lucas))

He's just not very skilled.

Bad shot, not a great finisher in traffic. He’s pretty much a fast break right player right now.

He is not nearly as deliberate as Rose is when he drives to the basket.

I’m guessing some of that will come with time and better teammates…or perhaps Derrick’s instincts are just far greater.

one thing derrick has over pretty much everyone in the league

is his ability to contort and move around in mid-air, you see with john wall, he has the speed, and then he takes off but he has no control. Rose has the same athleticism, but he has the ability to move in mid air, its the biggest difference between their ability to drive.

But yea their games are nothing alike.

He also has the best off hand in the league

and plays the glass better than anyone else as well.

and remember

when we all complained because he never drew fouls because of all the contortions he learned on windy city playgrounds…he figured it out.

No blood, no foul
Not yet, he hasn't.

He’s solid at getting to the line, but he could be so much better at it. Almost 7 FTA last season was pretty nice, but he’s down to 6 this season and not even in the top 20 in the league in attempts.

We don't need him to be top 20 in FTA

we needed that when he was taking 25 shots a game, but he isn’t now

John Lucas is our Matt Flynn, guys!
Slightly OT: When you click browse photos above, it links you to Heat/Clippers photos
That's an SBNation thing.

I assume it’s because the Heat are tagged in the post. Since their game was later, those are more recent than the Bulls-Wizards photos.

Could also be user error.

If so, I’ll hear about it.

btw, nick young sucks
God he really is awful.

On one Comcast reply, JL III flew by him and instead of trying to recover he looked up at the scoreboard as if he either couldn’t believe JLIII was capable of moving to his left so quick, or wondering how much time was left in the game so as to anticipate being in the locker room and masturbating to a poster of himself.

Imagine how much time Nick Young has spent convincing himself that the margin for error on this poll is somewhere around 25%

Scalabrine?

What the fuck.

imagine how much more time he must spend trying to figure out what margin of error means...
I think this says more about OJ Mayo than anyone else.

O.J. was highly touted even when he was in high school and now look at him.

I'm wondering if Thibs would really disclose the severity of the injury. We thought CJ

was just going to be out a few days, turns out he’s still recuperating. I don’t know if we’ll be able to use the eye test when Rose plays to see if he still has the same explosiveness, but the way Thibs and some of the players(Rip) think they’re okay to go and end up re-aggravating the injury. Rose will play with just one arm if he had to. That’s the type of player he is. He’ll put it all out there even if he’s 50%, and it’s admirable, but sometimes it can end up being a detriment as well.

I just hope the training staff and Rose himself, as well as the rest of the players for that matter will let themselves heal properly before coming back. And for the love of everything that is good and pure in this world, can Thibs NOT play Deng over 42 min every night?!

I agree.

This season especially, it would be smart to sit the extra game or two if necessary…even though it will cause all of us to freak out from time to time.

doc thibs with the diagnosis?

Bet he thinks its not fatigue either for luol he just likes to slump over and huff and puff at the end of games

regarding rip,

i’m a little worried how crazy the groin is getting.

errr, reports are rip is close to returning
I'm just happy he's getting healthier and we're still winning
exactly, without even our best effort, we r still kickin ass
and dont worry, its not an age related injury

groin injuries can happen to a person of any age.

oh i know, i've had groin tweaks.

they are indeed crazy and last a disturbing amount of time.

yea, ranges from 2 weeks to months

but it sounds like its getting better

Groins are crazy.
why not take a look at his groin?
Did anyone else notice Luol looked totally drained

He was slow getting through screens, and of course we all saw all the missed shots.

When he actually did get a rest as soon as he came in, he made a tough layup.

yeah.

thank god he gets a day off.

that's the only way he gets a breather. I wonder if he just gets some treatment and sleeps

the whole time.

Yeah it's like he played 40+ minutes three days in a row or something
Deng rests at halftime. What's the problem?

Thibs needs to mix and match Jo, Booze, Omer, Taj a bit more, even in the fourth quarter.

Nothing wrong with subbing a lot more, between foul shots, rotating them after 4-5 possessions if the results aren’t there.

The Taj/Omer lineup is not unbreakable Thibs!

Is it weird not to make a substitution for 10 minutes of game time?

Not when you don't really want Noah playing for a string of ten consecutive minutes.

He has been that awful.

Observations

1. Never count on Boozer to make up scoring for an injured teammate.
2. Wash. is worse than their record. No offensive scheme, disinterested defense.
3. Gail Fisher can post-up John Lucas III.

gail fisher has a post up her ass.
this is feeling like last season

we saw glimpses of our off season signings playing well together as a cohesive unit but just cant seem to stay healthy and get the right rhythm down all year

We didn't reach a 1/4 of the season
sweet vids, thank you sir
Curse of the Bulls Beaters?

Kwame Brown and Al Horford both go down with torn pectoral muscles?

two seconds of sympathy….

Brutal for both teams… and the East playoff picture just got more bizarre…

Ok, so

that ATL sympathy barely lasted a second…

i love that all of the dunk pron starts with a JLIII clank
wow... Josh Smith...

30 points, 22 shots and he did not attempt a single 3 ball?

and… oh, Charlotte… wanna trade Byron Mullens for Noah?

Mullens can score but he can’t play D or rebound. Reminds of a white Eddy Curry but in decent shape.

hehe.... wasn't serious...

I think Noah can still rebound (PUN INTENDED!) and give us what we need…

ever the optimist…

Anyone hear about Memphis talking to NJ concerning a trade.

There’s a rumor about a Mayo for Morrow swap. Man if there’s any truth to it, that’s a steal for NJ. C’mon the Bulls can definitely do better than Morrow. Make it happen.

mayo sucks...the guy is getting a chance this yr and hasnt been a good shooter at all
yep

Steroids a hella of a crutch

and...

if he is such a good defender (along with his offense)… why can’t he bump Tony Allen from the starting lineup?

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